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Added by Mass. Patriot on 21 Apr 2017 09:40
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INVALID ! A simple guide for pix seekers EXPANDED

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Italian site with Frontoni collection...or same photographer

It's a government site, and it's bad, hard to tell because I'm Italian but : When Angelo Frontoni died left all his archive to the city of Rome, most of them were diapos, with NO TAGS at all, because Frontoni knew her Divas personally, the people behind the scanners are volunteers, unpaid, and they have no idea who's in the diapos...
anyway this is french actress Hélène Chanel

The actress below isn't Hélène Chanel, her sister Nicole Stoliaroff neither, she's Edy Vessel...so DO NOT POST as Hélène Chanel PLEASE !!!

Those pics were taken in the same room...
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Average listal rating (10 ratings) 7.4 IMDB Rating 0
OK...no problem when you're messing up between Edy Vessel and Hélène Chanel...blonde, blue eyes, angelic face...but when the name is Helga Liné I get nervous...

This is Helga, from "Missione sabbie roventi" (1966) a mixed Peplum/Alladin flick...

Here Helga in color...so...is she looks like Helene ?

Anyway...some sites credited Helene for this flick "Slave girls of Sheba"..."dubbed" version of "Le verdi bandiere di Allah" (1963)...but...the pics are from "Operazione sabbie roventi" so there's Helga and Howard Ross too...

Yes a spanish lobby card...Helene in the pic...and the tiara on her head does NOT match with the pic of Something Weird Video...

and looking at the color poster we realize that the tiara matches and Helene's hair are NOT black...

Nobody's fault but...do not trust E-Bay photo credits, do not trust famousfix (all sites) pic credits...made cross controls between specialized fan-sites and IMDb.
Average listal rating (14 ratings) 8.4 IMDB Rating 0
Error = Name sounds similar

Gloria Paul

Gloria Pall

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EBay tag...any tags Getty, Alamy, AGFA

Same as the Frontoni collectors, the agency on the famous site had NO idea who are the actress of the photos they sell...
The lovely Dagmar...

Dagmar...no italian actress Linda Veras:

Error generated from an italian ridiculous movie site, the other sites spread the mistake.
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Large cast from Rank, and sites Movie-Dude and Aveleyman

Rank Organisation was a big British Studio Production, home of the Carry on franchise for example, they cast many extras totally uncredited.
The two famous sites linked started in the 90's with VCR recorder and good notions trying to decript the actors on those movies with large cast. Sometime they got the face and name sometime don't.
This was the point of start, Marian Collins, sometimes Marion, crediting :

Why 3 faces are the same woman, surely not the fourth one neither fifth, turnin page the missing link :

Marion photo in the "still uncredited" cast section of "Carry on Spying", then came along on this photo :

4 Amazon Guards from the same movie, I know two faces from the first file, and obvious curvy brunette Sally Douglas...back to the point, the pic showed Marion and the mysterious girl. Then I've found another pic :

Photo has a handwritten note : Carmen Dene, James O'Connor and Christine Rodgers, YES !!! The Mistery Girl had a name.
I've try to contact the site to repair the error, my emails step back.
The other famous site isn't better :

First the Karen Young photo in BW is correct, I posted on Listal several month ago, I found the photo as Composite in a famous model database, because Rank Organization cast models from London model agencies, I don't care if they copy to mine, that means I do/did a good job. They posted the correct Karen photo, unfortunately the girl credited as Angela Grant is Karen Young again...

Anyway I really appreciate the 2 sites works, surely mine is easier because I can cheek multiple points and DVDs and BRDs are better than old VHS cassettes.
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Average listal rating (6 ratings) 6.7 IMDB Rating 0

A common case is sisters swapping !
That is lovely Hansi Linder credited as...

...her sister Christa Linder, worldwide acress...

...on a famous vintage site, they are willing amateurs just like you.
Error = Blondie in swimsuit...face UP there

I've found this on other site listed as Olga Berova, she's in fact Christa Linder, same gorgeousness, different shape


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Error = Blonde+same title...not same face.

We can name it HAMMER ERROR because typing SHE we got mixed results from both movie but Ursula didn't pick the sequel and Olinka was cast, for less money !

Ursula Andress

Olinka Berova

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Average listal rating (34 ratings) 8.4 IMDB Rating 0
Error = Same face in BW, it's a movie scene, control IMDB before posting

Rosalba Neri did a lot of Spaghetti Western...

But this one's from Navajo Joe with Nicoletta Machiavelli :

And today a new entry searching for Nicoletta and founding : Helga Liné

This time the error is spreadring from a dutch small site on FLICKR with some photos, they won't me not to pick up the photo with mouse blocking...ahahahahahahahah
Googling and posting anything without any doubt

Edwige Fenech, one of the most popular face of the italian cinema through 4 decades :

Ravenish hair, black eyes...but look this pic below :

Is she really Edwige ? NO !!! She looks to me a girl with light color eyes, blue or grey...

EDIT September 10 2021
The pic was deleted in Feb 3 2020, I supposed a mod who knows my recog facial skills, the actress was Barbara Cappell...
I've upload the pic in this list as a warning to so STUPIDITY
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Average listal rating (27 ratings) 7.5 IMDB Rating 0
In color photos check the eyes color

Eyes color...eyes don't lie !
Ex-Jugo actress Beba Loncar...20 years career long in Italy.
Basically her eyes are light blue/gray, very magnetic in sunlight...yes I've meet her !

Here as a blondie, but I see movie where she's brunette or intense red, I think is real hair color was auburn...

WOW...I said red...not copper...and the eyes turns hazel ?
Obvious...she's well know italian actress Stefania Careddu...

And another invalid, Stefania for Barbara Lass

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Average listal rating (51 ratings) 7.4 IMDB Rating 0
When an actor plays another actor

Impersonator...ehm I mean character...when movies characters are real people !
This is Vampira, stage name and real life character of finnish actress Maila Syrjäniemi.

In 1994 Tim Burton made a biomovie on Ed Wood, one of the weirdest director of Hollywood, Vampira was one of the actresses of Ed Wood circle, so from Tim Burton circle the place of Vampira went to Burton's well endowed ex-gf, Lisa Marie...

Make Up can be very very convincing, but you can't hide Lisa's ample balcony...

Average listal rating (247 ratings) 5.4 IMDB Rating 5
Casino Royale (1967)
Large cast movies...

This movie is a total MESS, even the plot.
Too much leading characters, too much directors, too much extras, too much girls so be careful when you came along of this cast. I've found on Listal pics of Joanna Pettet on Barbara Bouchet and Ursula Andress sites, more mess added by young Alexandra Bastedo and 17y old Caroline Munro !!!
In some movie-forums the debact about roles/extras credited and uncredited is still burning.
I've seen various schemes about roles, but they had poor photos, I will post one of the best one of this day...
THE BEST ONE : click below


Barbara ? NO ! Joanna Pettet :

Barbara ? No ! Louisa Rabaiotti, she had 3 roles...but she's uncredited !

Teen Caroline Munro, Yvonne Horner and Miss Rabaiotti...

Premiere Night...How ugly looks in this photo the beautiful Caroline ?!?!


I don't intend be offensive with noone on Listal or take joke on them, so the pics listed below are NOT clickable, photographs are just sample to explain how recognized actress from the past ages
LOUD and CLEAR ? Carry On Sarge :
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Siblings in the same movie or magazine.
The Landers sisters :

This is Audrey, the oldest and famous sister of Judy...

And her sister Judy, she's taller and have a much better bodyshape than her sister...but Audrey is a star.

Still Judy in the Audrey pics...she's pretty, but her sister was a real dancing and singing beauty, one of the star of "A Chorus Line"

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I'm Max, on Listal since May 2013. I'm not a short-fuse guy, even when NFL fans talk badly about Tom Brady.
What makes me nervous ? Easy...incorrect photos of actors/actresses.
In 4 years I have posted about 11.000 photos, mostly actresses related to italian cinema, and genres movies, SyFy, Giallo, Horror, Poliziottesco and Italian Sexy Comedy. I used to work as photoseeker for italian mags, fanzines and sites in the early 2K, scanning old cinema mags, lobby cards, postcards and whatever related to european old movies mostly from 60's and 70's decade. I've seen a lot of this cinema from lot of craps to rare small gems. I'm an italian baby boomers so it's usual for me be at the cinema 4 or 5 times a week, plus I was living near a cinema and there's other 7 in two minutes walking span, obvious a 10y kid was not allowed to see Giallo or ISC but you have tons of adventures, peplum, western and Kaiju movies, in Sunday morning, after the Mass.
In winter time it's common on Sunday to attend at 3 different cinemas, in Italy we hadn't Double Feature and the two italian TV channels started programs at 5PM Monday to Friday, so we had Japanese Monsters movie morn, old peplum or western early noon in parish cinema and current movies in regular theaters 6PM...long intro just to say I'm an old moviegoer, so I've watch tons of flicks and see thousands of beautiful actresses faces, and I got an excellent memory as usual in a History student.
Just to cut the story short PLEASE read this simple list carefully, young people expecially, Googling for pics is not like see a movie, bad or good either.

Above one of my scans from early 2000's, Janet Agren photographed by her hausband...

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