What is everyone's religion/non religion?(NO Arguments plz)

athiesm ....it all just depends what you belive in...you can belive there is such as a god or you can belive in science

I don't have a religion but I think god and satan are real but satan sucks balls and god kicks his ass with 2 .45mm pistols.

Wolf-Paw



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Posted : 3 months, 2 weeks ago at Jun 5 15:40 -
Question; Do animals not have souls? Do they all worship something?
Wait, don't answer that... We don't want to start having a comedy of cat religions and stuff...

Nothing can ever last... Why should we? If we are so special that we should last... WHY? probably 90% of the Earth Sins every day in almost every Holy Book, they believe they will still go to "Heaven" As long as they keep praying and go to church occassionally

And Yuki, your not getting it, if someone is an Aetheist, you aren't going to show them a new 'light' if they never believed in the story in the first place

But Maggie, embrace religion, it is an interesting concept to learn about... though a lot of people do the stupidest things because of it... *Sigh*

Also, what was that guy's name... King CHarle's the eigth of something?
He changed the bible so that he could divorce his wives... wtf? that's total ignorance right there, change it to your liking? THAT is probably the biggest 'sin' anyone can ever do...
If mere people can change the bible, and we have a hazy history, what if there were MORE rules which were eradicated BEFORE they found out about the rising religion, I mean... religion all starts with the first person to think it...

Have you ever had gossip spread?
You know how it starts:
I heard that the Teacher is dating the Principal

you know how it ends after just maybe... 50 people?
I heard that the teacher is a slut and fucked the Principal

Who's to say the Bible or any of the other books didn't have this same stuff happen to them?

Why do religions branch out? Because they disagree with bits and parts of other religions

if there really IS a god, you CAN'T believe in just ONE part of a Holy Book, you gotta do EVERYTHING it says

that was king henry the eigth not charles and it was changed from Catholic to protestant.
Close enough though.

no religioun here, it start wars alot if u think about it.6

One thing about religion I always wonder is, how far more advanced scientifically do you think we would all be if the Christian faith hadn't interfered and band anything that contradicted their beliefs? I was watching a show this afternoon that was basically talking about how a scientist in medieval times thought that the Universe may have always existed, or at least had existed far beyond the human race, and had been around for a very very long time etc. What happened? The church declared his work could never ever be read or spoken about in public again! So someone who came up with ideas about the universe which we believe today, had his views quelled over 400 years ago!

The same thing goes for evolution, theories about space, aliens, dinosaurs. Who knows what else has been hidden away or banned because it didn't fit into the template of the bible? Loads of science has gone untested until now days because people were too afraid of being killed for being clever enough to see the fallacies of religion.

The age of the universe is still not common knowledge (as far as I know) and even if it was, it isn't really much of a scientific discovery that impacts on our daily lives. The stars have still always been over our heads, people were free to research tools to look at them in great detail (the telescope was still invented during the middle ages, religion couldn't have pushed it that far back). I wouldn't be surprised if some joker thought he'd have a chance of seeing God if he could magnify the universe!

I'm sure you can guess one of the earliest books to ever roll off of the printing press when it was invented. I'd guess that mass producing the bible was one of the primary aims of the inventor of the press. It also sparked a scientific revolution where scientist could now publish and disseminate their work to other scientists in journals - a process that is still around today.

Let's not forget all the people who said in this thread that religion is responsible for wars across the globe. Wars are often times of intense scientific advancement in terms of new technologies and haphazard medical techniques!

I think Religion has probably been inspirational to many inventors and scientists over the years. What amazing scientific advancements to we have today thanks to aliens and dinosaurs, now that the church never gets involved?

I would imagine a lot of biological research has been allowed since the church's say on matters has began to decrease etc. Even now research on things like stem cells and cloning are being poo poo'd as unethical by the church when they could be hugely beneficial to humans. I do believe some are trying to research cloning so they can attempt cloning Christ himself but that isn't the only driving reason behind it. I can't say I would want it to go as far as cloning entire humans, but the organs etc we could harvest to save lives are hugely beneficial.
The churches suppression of women may have also set us back, imagine if women had been given as much respect as men from the start, there might have been advancements made with their aid, instead Mrs Einstein is baking a cake whilst her husband is inventing all sorts. (He prob wasnt married, I'm just saying)

People being burned at the stake for being "witches" or for saying things that were considered outrageous at the time may also have gone on to discover amazing things with the information they had gathered, but the church saw fit to kill them instead.

A lot of discoveries during the war must surely have been researched before and during and even after the war and not just during. Granted the need for an edge to win would have sped things up a lot, but the rocket for example can't have just been thrown together in the years of World War Two, the research for medicine would have also taken time to go through. These things might have taken say 5-10 years longer to come about (which is a long time if its a disease killing people at the time etc) but if that research had been done 300 years before it and the church disagreed, it would have been burnt alongside the scientist and all evidence of its existence destroyed.

The wars are the same kind of problem though, we have no idea what kind of information and history was destroyed whilst man was dropping bombs left right and center. All the wars throughout history have made it harder and harder to trace back what we know and don't know. We probably wouldn't even have heard of Christianity if the Romans hadn't waged war throughout Europe and forced it on everyone they met, but then we also wouldn't be here today without them so I guess I shouldn't complain!!

The church has no say in what research occurs nowadays, even on stem cells. The issue there is a sociological and humanitarian one. You don't have to be a Christian to be morally objected to the prospect of taking potential life and turning it into an organ factory. I can't remember the current state of play, but the only thing holding science back is a law which states that work shall not be undertaken on stem cells. A government could change that at the drop of a hat, just like the laws which allow abortion - they don't have to pander to Christians on the subject, it's just a massive moral question.

Women are still not on an equal footing today in many aspects of normal life, and that's not anything to do with religious persecution. There is probably a bias that stems back from early man that has placed the man - thanks to differences in physique and ability - as the hunter gatherers, and the woman as the protector of children and the home. I'm not saying this is acceptable, I just think that this way of thinking must be so far ingrained into human evolution that Christianity can't be the only reason that women were suppressed.

Some inventions and principles are researched before hand, but others were probably not. A lot would have been weapons of war like tanks and machine guns, but others like sonar, radar, computers, nuclear power and such have far reaching implications. Wartime surgery and medicines are a matter of life and death too, they aren't generally planned, yet they lead to massive advances. Penicillin and antibiotics came about and never went through massive trials like they would today. Why would the church ever ban healthcare? It's one of the oldest institutions of civilised society. What if the church had been more on the ball and made a fuss about nuclear weapons!?

The Roman's started their empire by feeding Christians to the lions! Not forgetting killing that messiah bloke. Zeus and Hera were more their kind of spirituality.

I think they were more correct and seeing as they've learnt how to make eyes that are blind see dots again now imagine if they'd began this in medieval times. We would be able to regrow limbs with out the aid of a pig bladder powder.
But still isn't it crazy that some people believe that blowing themselves and others to smithereens gets them rewarded how's that work?

I just don't understand where people think inventions come from. I'm racking my brains for a time when the church would have banned microscopy which must have forced all those poor scientists not to look at living things on a cellular level. Humans are amazing, no doubt about it, but our knowledge is a progression, it doesn't just occur in massive steps.

Imagine if the church hadn't generally organised the public into communities and disciplined humanity into civilised society. Biblical laws are still the mainstay of statutes worldwide. Here's me trying to get my science on when some dude comes and axes me in the head because he fancies stealing my shit and raping my wife! Dammit!

I don't really have a religion. I believe more towards mother nature and scientific studies.

GA, the church is not responsible for societies and discipline. The Egyptians and other civilizations had fully functioning societies before Christianity had even been made up! As you said above the Romans started off killing Christians as part of their conquest, before that as you said they were polytheists. I do not feel religion can be held accountable for civilization, its just part of a civilization as much as science and education and fighting etc. The native Americans traveled in tribes and evolved without religious institutes warping their minds. They had their own beliefs and spiritualism based on stories and things they never understood but tried to explain. Its more true to believe that religion had a massive stranglehold on societies in older times, burning people at the stake for witch craft, getting them to pay their way into heaven and generally lead everyone up the garden path with their stories.

Biblical laws are far more likely to be a set of rules that were needed to be put in place, which were disguised as rules from God to help enforce them. Now of course however they are enforced, it is good that they are, but saying religion created the rules isn't a fair assessment. If before that murder was cool and stealing was AOK, but it took Moses crawling off into the mountains to get a tablet from a burning bush to change the world then bravo to religion, but I think people kind of knew not to kill each other without Gods help. (The native Americans being a good example again, having strict rules to aid their survival eg using 100% of animals for food, moving around as to not exhaust the earths resources)

It seems throughout history that religions have sprung up, then been replaced by another more favorable one each time. Now days we are only hearing about the ones we have now because the others have already been debunked or forgotten. In another 2000 years there will probably be a whole new crazy religion in place. If people can just keep going hmm Buddhism looks more believable than Islam I think I will change, then surely that hints that they are all nonsense when it boils down to it? If the world sat down and went through all the religions removing historical inaccuracies, misinterpretations, impossible feats, and generally disproved everything they could about them, there would be a shell left that might take us a step closer to understanding wether or not there is anything more to life than what we have.

Dionysian Child - Ok so the church might not be the main culprit in oppressing women but it wasn't until recently they were allowed to hold anything more within the church than being a Nunn etc, it was forbidden for them to have any respectable position of authority over people. Society as a whole has suppressed women and that is probably true that its more because of their physical restraints in ancient times with regards to foraging etc, but in pretty much every area they have had little respect. Religion is a major one, in Islam they are very poorly treated from an outsiders POV for example.

The bible states women have different responsibilities, and thats part and parcel of what womens rights activists got so het up about isn't it? They didn't want to be forced into boxes and roles, they wanted to be able to do anything and everything. Jesus says they should be cooks and men should be workers, women want to be workers too.

I can't see how Jesus giving Mary the responsibility of telling his disciples he was alive proves women were respected, if it was 1 of the 2 main Marys in the story then 1 was his mother, the other was (allegedly) his Mrs! So either way he would have been talking to his 2 most cherished women in his life, and they might have been the first person he saw! I am sure when whichever author was writing that story, he didn't think "this'll show equality between sexes!" he was just plucking a character from his mind and giving them a role in the plot. He didn't appear in front of them as a ghost, he had risen from the dead and was walking around, so his mother or his partner would be 2 very likely people to be mourning at his grave. I would certainly head round to my partner if I rose from the dead.
The fact the men thought she was delirious when she told them he had risen makes me think they had little respect for her, but Peter would have thought "Hmm he is the son of God, perhaps I had best check this out!" (How else would the plot continue?) and so he would have gone along to be sure, its not every day someone says that a man has risen from the dead.


Another obvious place where religion is holding back progression is Jehovah's witnesses and their rule against blood transfusions. Of all the ridiculously stupid rules and regulations to enforce on a person this is one of the worst in recent times! They are not even a real religion, yet people die because they believe some bull shit story they were told about putting foreign bodies into your self. They are right on par with Scientology for their disgraceful beliefs. It might be healthy not to drink/smoke etc, but when its a matter of life or death medicine and transfusions etc are extremely important!

I'm sorry, I thought your beef was with religion as a whole, but non-sensically, it seems to be solely with Christianity! Civilisations before Christianity were founded on God-fearing populaces. The Egyptians had multiple Gods who were worshipped and begged for help. The Greek Gods, The Roman Gods, every great civilisation has been founded and disciplined using a religion! Civilisation evolves just like anything else. Before, man had clubs, he looked out for himself by whatever means necessary, his entire day was spent foraging for food, clothing, shelter and safety. When civilisations came along the benefits were obvious. Man had time to farm, learn, create and even have hobbies! But what's to stop bandits and the like coming along and ransacking farms, slaughtering animals etc. Law enforcement isn't all encompassing or even efficient back in the day. The threat of eternal torture and punishment is, so that idea is used again and again.

Without religions, what exactly have the native American's contributed to the scientific forefront of humanity? Just exactly how far have they evolved? They're a very bad example for you to use and in fact it was one I was going to bring up on my side of the coin! There are tribes all over the world that exist solely to exist, that's great, but they don't contribute anything fundamental to the survival of humanity. Let them have their incest and spiritualism! No doubt they are constantly engaged in tribal warfare, they'd kill other tribesmen for cattle, water, anything. That says a lot about their valuation of human life.

We think it's not cool to murder because we are brought up to appreciate the value of human life - principles handed down by religion and the law. If we look at things from a scientific perspective, we are a bundle of genes that exists SOLELY to replicate and pass our genes on. Self-preservation by any means necessary is the most important thing a human being has to think about. By whatever means necessary would probably include killing anything or anyone who was a threat or of no use to you. Taking the native American's as another shining example of human evolution, they leave anyone too old to carry equipment behind to die whenever they decamp and move on. As I said before, there were warring tribes who would kill over resources, hunting grounds, anything, that when I compare it to human life seems utterly trivial. My own mother probably isn't strong enough to hulk a tipi over hundreds of miles on horseback, but I'm sure glad I don't have to just leave her behind. Let's not forget that any tribesman who continues to live in a reservation today is specifically refusing cutting edge medical treatment that society can offer. Just like the Jehova's witnesses. I bet the one million people worldwide who have contracted HIV from blood transfusions (according to the World Health Organisation) probably wished they were in with the Jo-Hos!

If only, over the past 2000 years, someone would have had the idea to debunk Christianity! Religions survive because of all available evidence that exists (or doesn't exist) to reaffirm them. On top of all of them, Christianity is the most widely practised. It must be doing something right! I bet 2000 years ago someone said exactly the same thing!

i believe that i am agnostic, but then again, i do have my own theorys. so aethiest is it?

No it's agnostic.

yes i believe so.
yet i have so many questions for those whom are catholic or christian. your religion is just so confusing to me. no offense.

Nothing? What do you meanYou have to fal in to a catagory there's no room to slip through the bars.

Exactly now if you're in a cult it's clearly being religeous.

Im Catholic/Christan. My family is on both sides but i dont go to church.I pray in my own room.

I like norse gods the best with thor and them.Ill see if I can get a list of them to you guys and girls