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What is everyone's religion/non religion?(NO Arguments plz)

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Deleted 16 years ago at May 8 4:18 -
yes true but wat we say about god makes us fight.

and in our book Qur'an God said that jesus never died while he was on the cross...He took jesus's soul and he mafe the person who betrayed jesus look like jesus fooling everyone that the guy who betrayed jesus was jesus

(i dont think i made any sense but oh well)
Btw our book Qur'an is never a fake...because it contains of 100% words from our God. no one dares to change or edit it.
not trying to pick a fight....just wondering y christians change our lords words
Dionysian Child 16 years ago at May 8 18:14 -
I never knew that Muslims believed that. I didn't quite understand what you were saying though.
Do you mean that someone took Jesus off the cross and replaced the body with that of Judus to fool people?

The Romans were pretty good at their job as executioners. If they got it wrong they themselves were killed.
The day after Jesus was being killed was the Jews Holy day, and so the Romans wanted all the prisoners dead before then. They broke the prisoners knees on either side of Jesus thus making them die quickly, but found Jesus to already be dead. To make sure (because he was such an important prisoner and so much publicity was given to the case) they speared his side.
His body was then taken down and put in a borrowed friends tomb wrapped and guarded by Roman soldiers to make sure no-one stole the body again if they lost the body they would pay for it with thier lives.

Acounts of all this exist obviously in the bible but also are recorded by Roman historians and in their execution lists, but also by Jews and the Pharasies who thought his death was execellent as it would put an end to all of his teachings and followers.
Dream 16 years ago at May 9 4:19 -
In response to the christianity is a big umbrella thought, I think that the word christian has been debased to just something you tell people. It has no meaning anymore. I, personally, hate saying that I'm a Christian. I only say it so people won't give me totally blank looks when I say Seventh-day Adventist. But yeah, I don't really appreciate being put in the same boat with Catholics. I only pray to God. Not all the Mary, Joseph and saint crap. (no offense to catholics, not trying to pick a fight.)
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 9 5:44 -
@D Child well u kinda got the point but....God fooled everyone who thought that jesus was being crusified by making the betrayer look the same exact details of jesus...so they captured the wrong person and crusified him.....where as for jesus...God took his soul in a better and much safer way
Phil 16 years ago at May 9 8:17 -
Brought up as a Methodist (another denomination of Christianity), but basically agnostic. It'd be nice to believe that there's some kind of God that's basically a decent kind of being, but I don't have that kind of faith. It doesn't make much sense to me really.

I do think there's a lot to take from the Bible though (not looked at other religion's texts - Scientology aside, which is just silly IMHO) in terms of how to best live your life. Some of the ambiguity is a bit unfortunate, and some of the morals of the time in which it was written probably don't fit in 21st Century Western culture, but generally it's got a good bunch of morals running through the core of it.

Arrancar_Nana Yuki - It's a bit difficult to know what the original words of God (as Christians see Him) were. Many books of the Bible weren't written down until much later, so naturally it's possible that things were changed. Once beyond that, and even with those that were written down at the time, there's the issue of translation from the original text into the language of choice. A small minority of Christians choose to read the original, untranslated text, but for many it's far easier to read a tranlastion. Inherent in this is the fact that the "actual" words aren't going to be the same. However, if you compare versions of the Bible - The Good News to the King James versions, for example - while one may be written in English that's a little easier to understand and simplified, the tone and meaning of both is pretty much identical in most places. The majority of translations agree on the whole.
Abed T. 16 years ago at May 9 10:51 -
i'm muslim :D:D
and i'm not a terrorist :P lol
i have Christian freinds

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GemLil 16 years ago at May 9 16:07 -
I don't really appreciate being put in the same boat with Catholics. I only pray to God. Not all the Mary, Joseph and saint crap.


I fail to see how this isnt offensive. I have been friends with catholics all my life; other dominions of Christianity may see it as over-zealous, but american christianity is more than a match for it in terms of fundamentalism. So what if they want to pray to saints? Isnt it just a by-route to praying to God? He made them 'divine' after all.

You are in the same boat so like it or lump it. Its the same freaking God and practically the same bible. Isnt it funny how those of us who arn't relgious seem to be more 'christian' than many christians.

2 men go before God, one has done marvellous things all his life, given to charity and helped the needy, knowing he will get his reward in heaven, another has done all of those things; expecting no reward. Just acting through pure kindness. I'd always prefer to be the latter.

If there is a heaven; I'm sure the bouncers wont be letting in people who are looking for fragmentation. If heaven is full of christians slagging off anything that may wish to practice relgion, slightly differently; well I dont want to be there.

Why cant people just accept life and the people in it the way it is?; live in the present and carpe dium. There are so many relgions anyway; the odds are you've picked the wrong one...might aswell enjoy life and let your moral compass be your guide.

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Deleted 16 years ago at May 9 18:25 -
I was baptized as a Lutheran/Christian at age 13, so that's what I am, i guess. I leagally belong to God now...lmao. I'm not that religious, but I do believe in God, and I do talk and pray to him sometimes.
stephizzle' 16 years ago at May 9 21:03 -
oo i'm a just a christian my family ownz a church and stuff so i like have 2 pray read the bible so i no a lot about god so hav any thing 2 ask hitme up
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 9 21:48 -
yeah realy i have notice that those that aren't christian act more like christians then the real ones. but then again no human is perfect. Now may i pose a question.
1:What if there was a budist christian?
Budist do not harm living things and try to do the best they can. To me we would have the perfect christian
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 10 0:07 -
Unlike Christians who go out of their way to hurt living things and do the worst they can!
Dionysian Child 16 years ago at May 10 0:39 -
The second you claim to be something, whether is be Christian, Buddhist or other you come under scrutiny for that faith. Of course your going to fail as your human. The great thing about your faith may be that you believe your God will forgive you, but you will be held accountable as a witness by those around you and judged by them.

Arrancar_Nana Yuki- So do all Muslims believe that God took Jesus' body and replaced it with that of Judas to be crucified? why would he do that?

Devious Phenomenon 16 years ago at May 10 3:28 -
I don't believe any Muslim is a terrorist,
the ones who suicide bomb, well sure, they are a little... odd... but they are just fighting for what they believe in, and they happen to believe in it enough to give their lives to it. Strong, strong beliefs

I happen to be friends with quite a few Muslims, one who happens to hate most Atheists... though that is because most people see an atheist as someone who hates religion and wants nothing to do with it, Atheoi, the origin of the word Atheist, means "Without god" do you see god-hater in there at all? No, just some of them hate god, you can call that ground anti-religious atheists...
And, quite the contrary, I may not believe in god, but I still find religion to be extremely interesting, it's fun learning about new and old religions and how they worked and what was involved in them



Arrancar_Nana Yuki



Rank : 628 Posted : 2 days, 4 hours ago at May 7 18:03 -

Heh yama...like prelude said....u wanna start a topic about religon and u expect us not to fight?

My dad said never start a topic anout religion unless u wanna start a fight^^

ok im a Muslim....and till now i think that our relgion so far makes most sense to me
i dont get the fact how christians ever came to the thought of ever thinking that Jesus is Gods Son....
in our religion we call it Haram....which means its a Sin


Yuki, I am expecting that the people here have enough self control not to, it really would be pathetic for grown people to fight over such a silly thing, believe whatever you want to believe, it is part of life, nobody can take away your beliefs, even if you cannot show it on the outside, the inside still has it secretly
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 10 15:41 -
I think that most religeons are good and well I mean they form the foundations of society like no bigamy ,no stealing ,do not murder etc.

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Deleted 16 years ago at May 10 21:01 -
I am quite surprised to read that people seriously believe God "Replaced Jesus with a replica he made from Judas" Aren't Judas' days post crucifixion as well documented as all the other disciples?!
Dream 16 years ago at May 10 21:29 -
I fail to see how this isnt offensive. I have been friends with catholics all my life; other dominions of Christianity may see it as over-zealous, but american christianity is more than a match for it in terms of fundamentalism. So what if they want to pray to saints? Isnt it just a by-route to praying to God? He made them 'divine' after all.


I'm sorry Gem. I guess that was offensive. I really dont have anything against catholics themselves. Theres many good people out there who are catholic. I just disagree with the belief that Mary, Joseph, or those saints were in any way divine. Only God's divine. Jesus even lost His divinity while he was on earth. I mean, you could argue that those saints were filled with the Holy Spirit. I do believe in the Holy Spirit. (The whole Trinity.) But divine is implying that they were somehow exempt from the plan of salvation or were equal to God. I dont agree with that.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 10 23:10 -
no divine means that they were chosen by god to spread his message. and look some of the saints made huge mistakes in their lives. i mena pope john paul the second was polish and alive during the second world war. he suffered terribly and then later on in life he became the pope
Physch 16 years ago at May 11 0:18 -
I am a southern baptist. I do not beleive the whole"science has an answer for everything" thing, though my grandpa thinks you can beleive in both. I'm am completely religion tolerant, after all, my best freind(and cousin) is a buddhist, my favorite uncles jewish, and my great aunt is catholic. So i'm definitely not trying to start anything.
Dream 16 years ago at May 11 0:25 -
no divine means that they were chosen by god to spread his message.


Everyone is chosen to spread God's message. Its just our place to accept it or not. No, divine means to be as good as God. Nobody can be divine but Him,Jesus and the Holy Spirit. We are justified by his righteousness but no one is divine.
xXxRainXDropxXx 16 years ago at May 11 2:19 -
I am roman catholic
brissy boy ben 16 years ago at May 11 11:36 -
christian
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 11 14:49 -
listen divine means chosen by god himself, actualy having him tell you through an angel or himself that you are to spread his message to the world and that you are to help bring the world peace
Dream 16 years ago at May 11 18:24 -
Whatever. Have it your way. I dont want to argue. But thats not what divine means. Look it up.

and theres no such thing as world peace. The world is a sinful place, incapable of all being peaceful at the same time. As the end nears, this world is going to get worse and worse. Then Jesus will come.

(Sorry if it seems like I have an opinion on everything, but Im just speaking my mind.)
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 11 23:58 -
no yama....it doesnt matter if ur big or small believe me
both my dad and his friend were yelling on top of their voices about this subject and i ....well i really actually couldnt stop laughing coz they both looked like kids to being with....nd half of wat they said made the same points over and over but they just dint want to agree to it.
Ofcourse i was punished for that lame action that i did but seriously they had to act their age
Devious Phenomenon 16 years ago at May 13 1:56 -
and theres no such thing as world peace. The world is a sinful place, incapable of all being peaceful at the same time. As the end nears, this world is going to get worse and worse.



Wow Dream, I couldn't have said it better myself; Seriously



Main Entry: 1di·vine
Pronunciation: \də-ˈvīn\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): di·vin·er; di·vin·est
Etymology: Middle English divin, from Anglo-French, from Latin divinus, from divus god — more at deity
Date: 14th century
1 a: of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god b: being a deity c: directed to a deity
2 a: supremely good : superb b: heavenly, godlike
— di·vine·ly adverb


There is the meaning of Divine (Adj.)

Yes Yuki, I probably shouldn't have said that; truth is, a LOT of people fight over religion... and it's just pathetic...

I've noticed, most of the 'controversial' conversations are only controversial because of these kind of people:

People who ALWAYS have to be right
People who love to disagree
People who believe everyone has to believe what they believe


honestly, if you think about it, the points people make for not doing(or doing)/believing/not believing certain things often have various huge holes in them, however they choose to be ignorant and stubborn and not admit to those holes(or fix them) and thus the topic becomes controversial

It's perfectly fine to express opinion, but expressing opinion and expecting everyone else to follow YOUR opinion, it takes a mighty large ego to do that...

I should know, my little brother has the ego the size of the Titanic (funny, I have the ego the size of a toothpick... wonder how that happened... nevermind...)

The point is, basically, it is Human Nature to ALWAYS have someone that disagrees for some reason... and powerful things(or thing SEEN as powerful but not actually that powerful) are disagreed on even more; religion, death penalty, war, and much more are all percieved as powerful in our society(or actually are powerful) thus they are disagreed on non stop.

^^' sorry... I am in a writing mood, but I don't have the story I was working on near me, so I can't finish Chapter I *Sigh* as you can see I am bored and typing for the sake of releasing that boredom...
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 13 2:09 -
lol ^^ yup u got watever i wanted to say
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:05 -
I agree although I don't know why people believe in gods or god or spirits that protect and serve us.
That created everything and things like that.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:08 -
vince...when it comes to religion..i get pissed easy ^^'...never....ever ever say that again
without God....we are nothing....and we have only ONE GOD.
He created earth in 6 days only. He made us.....the reason y we are alive is becoz He wants to test us and see if we deserve to be in heaven or not
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:10 -
Then why give man free will I mean come on we're shallow arrogant pricks who's clever idea was it to give us free will?
It's his biggest folly ever he doomed man with it.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:10 -
Then why give man free will I mean come on we're shallow arrogant pricks who's clever idea was it to give us free will?
It's his biggest folly ever he doomed man with it.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:31 -
thats y....He is testing us...its written from His words in our Holy Book caed Qur'an that the angels were wondering y was i so hard for us to act right so he allowed 2 angels to try it and they werent able to handle it....
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:33 -
Which is why there's more suffering than ever in the world.
I try not to cause suffering too but I don't believe I have a chance at getting in heaven anyway.
I mean after all I've done anyway I don't honestly think there's a chance to it.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:56 -
there is only one way.....if u turn muslim and go to Hajj and ask for forgiveness and promise never todo them again....u will be pure like a baby just born without any sins....all ur sins will be cleaned
this experience helps u gt rid of all the sins u have made in ur past so u can go to heaven in peace
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 18:58 -
Sorry I don't honestly do religeons I can't do em it's like I know em but I hate worshipping as it's basicly them demanding a bribe not to smite us.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:03 -
hmm...well thts the problem...if u dont do it...then u dont deserve it
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:15 -
lol That's the thing I'm damned I've tried loads of different religeons I did try muslim for a bit but it didn't work for me
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:21 -
how come?
i think being muslim is the best
we pray for 5 mins 5 times a day
if sasaki senpai was here he would gree coz he lives in a muslim country and really once u are there then its not so hard
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:22 -
It's nearly impossible for me to pray actually as I can't do it it sounds so forced with me
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:25 -
if it is forced then u should never do it....becoz the only prayers that are accepted are the true prayers that are calling out to God from the bottom of our hearts
all u need is encouragement and somone to guild u
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:27 -
I guess but that's not gonna happen because I question too much.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:29 -
like how? what type of quetions cross your mind?
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:32 -
If he;s there why does he need validation from us through prayers?
If everything is made this way why is everything always changing?
If there were only two to begin with and incest is ungodly how did we get here?
Dionysian Child 16 years ago at May 14 19:40 -
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. That how I believe it is with God.
He set everything up around us and gave us all we need to live. If He then ORDERED us to love him like robots. Thats not love its a duty.
You wouldn't want to marry someone and have them as your life partner having forced them into it at gun point. You want and deserve to be loved for who you are and the things you have done.

Things are changing in the world and always will because with free will comes choice, and egos and people thinking they know best.

God has given guidlines in his Holy book, put His Son on earth as a living example and even allows us to talk one to one to Him directly.
How much more help could He really give us? But yet listening to Him and following those guidlines are never easy because of things that lure us away from him.
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:40 -
frist off always say "He" as He is always around and is everywhere.

t answer ur first question....He wants to see if we cae about the religion....yes there are muslims who just call themselves as muslims and do nothing...and that is totally unacceptable...muslims need to be clean 24/7, pray, believe in His existance and teach the world that this religion will garuntee u a place in heaven no matter what. Now there are different types of prayer....there is the prayer that u pray everyday to prove ur belief in Him. there is the prayer that you are in need of Him, There is the prayer where you wish the dead ppl to be in peace or for the sick to become well or ther personal reasons.

to answer ur second question...God has made us to see if we deserve to be in heaven....therefore he gave us the free will to do watever we want...and by that he tests us by giving us knowladg and sometimes sickness to others to see if they can bare it. Now this knowladge will help achieve a cange in our lives...like compare before with now.....everything is different and nothing may be the same......as time grows....the ppl chnge and that is a natural habbit

to answer ur third question...well honestly....i dint get wat u meant
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 19:48 -
I guess you're right but I didn't see any bright lights when I nearly went to this paradise. (heaven)
Dionysian Child 16 years ago at May 14 19:53 -
why should you expect to?
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Deleted 16 years ago at May 14 21:30 -
lol nice one DC

well....ur ot really dead now are u vincey?
Dina 16 years ago at May 15 1:37 -
On the topic of religion,
I think that its better not to contimplating on whether your living a good life and a just one, with fear of unspeakable concequences...
Me myself, I am not saying that there is a definite god and Im not saying there isn't...
I believe if there is a god he would understand my need for logical explanation and deffinate conclusion...
Life wouldnt be the same without belief and loyality to a person, but everyone should have the right in which they decide...