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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 5 23:48 - Delete the entire groups section. It really is that bad.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 5 23:55 - I concur.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:13 - Just calm down, guys. You're on board to be a moderator GA. Be patient.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:17 - Instead of being a voice of reason, why don't you make your profile a bit more filled in. You don't care about what this site was made for. You just wanna be neutral kangaroo.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:19 - The forums have descended into farce now, and I think that the only way there will ever be any sense of order is if they are flushed and we just start again. Threads like Prelude's game list compilation and the great review call-to-arms are fine to stay, but the rest is soiled beyong repair.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:23 - Instead of being a voice of reason, why don't you make your profile a bit more filled in. You don't care about what this site was made for. You just wanna be neutral kangaroo.
This is jumping to conclusions and is unfair as well. I'm not trying to be some goddam Mother Teresa. I almost passed GA before I deleted my account (I was one rank away, too). I'm working on my profile.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:25 - I know exactly who you are Thillian. But why not make your profile a little more presentable? Afterall, you are meant to be a renowned member but you set no decent examples for the rest.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:29 - I'm working on it. I changed my display name back to avoid confusion sometime while you made that post. I have to get back into the groove. Listal's not just some hobby you pick up off the bat: it's a way of life.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 0:30 - There are some threads that make you wonder what things are coming to. Some websites have a setting where by you can only post or access certain areas after fulfilling certain requirements. Since an IQ test would be too arduous to complete, perhaps points could gain you privileges on the website? Each privilege could be used to encourage people to contribute further, so if you want to post in the groups section for example, you would need to contribute enough first to be deemed worthy. More features would be required but that can be figured out later on, in the mean time imagine the flurry of input that would be created if points meant prizes?
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 1:09 - The sad thing is I believe Listal became some sort of algorithmic search engine response for anime terms. I forget the database, but it analyzes visitors and particular appeal of websites, always including the top twenty or so relatable terms. 'Naruto' and 'Kakashi' are two of Listal's last I checked. Googlebombs have been eliminated but the responses are still skewed when it comes to anime searches that land you at a collection website. I wish there was one destructable source, but it seems the system of algorithm's against such a desire.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 11:45 - The sad thing is I believe Listal became some sort of algorithmic search engine response for anime terms. I forget the database, but it analyzes visitors and particular appeal of websites, always including the top twenty or so relatable terms. 'Naruto' and 'Kakashi' are two of Listal's last I checked.
That is so saddening it is unreal. In fact, there was a thread the other day where a new member's first message in the groups was a 'Hi' and when I asked why he was in GD just saying 'Hi' in the middle of a discussion thread that was already set up he said that he thought 'this was an RPing' site.
Maybe Tom did it to get more members but unluckily for him, everyone of those members is 14 or lower! Who create nothing but disharmony among the core topics of the site.
I love your idea RB. Points don't bother me that much (since I'm on the first page anyway ^_^) but the whole point of the system was to see who does the most work on the website. You should gain priviledges for being part of the REAL community.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 16:17 - perhaps points could gain you privileges on the website
Considering how easy it is to gain points here and abuse the system, implementing such a rule would be utterly useless. I consider myself a fairly good contributor to the site, and yet I see my ranking drop weekly.
It's far too complicated and rules out a lot of people who could potentially be great conversation contributors, or enourages people to post useless photos and reviews to increase their points and then get access to this area.
Personally, the number of threads that I feel interested in joining have been fewer and fewer as the days go by. Therefore I can certainly see the appeal of getting rid of this section altogether. It is really not a necessity for this site or its purpose.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 16:37 - Obviously with the Moderators being sworn in there can be a bottleneck on these things coming in. It will obviously be abused but at least this way it stops random ppl joining (with multiple accounts) and throwing up sick and snuff images for all to see. Essentially it is so no one bothers to do it.
Hopefully the review section will have a word count limit which will stop three word sentences as an evaluation for a piece of media text! We just need to wait for Tom to get this baby back up and running properly!
Hopefully the review section will have a word count limit which will stop three word sentences as an evaluation for a piece of media text! We just need to wait for Tom to get this baby back up and running properly!
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 19:16 - I thought about the word count limit, non "reviewing" forums i go on implement this saying "Your post was below the minimum word count" then encouraging you to say something more worthwhile and interesting. This could still be abused, but then so can everything.
The points mean prizes idea could be implemented at a lower level then, maybe not to force people to contribute rubbish just to gain the privileges, but perhaps to make it at least a little more difficult. If you had to have 1000 points, who is going to sign up repeatedly under 10 different names to post rubbish knowing they have to gain 1000 points each time to do it? There could be a disclaimer put up too, so that when you enter the groups you have to agree to the T+C and then those shown breaking it could be banned. A code of conduct which is strictly adhered to can be extremely efficient. A ratio could be implemented? Like download websites have, input:output and then anything considered not contributing to the site could be classed as output (eg posting copiously) and then if your ratio becomes poor you can be messaged to say "contribute more" etc and that person will then have a choice between pulling their finger out, or wasting away. This way spammers would just be sealing their own doom.
The points mean prizes idea could be implemented at a lower level then, maybe not to force people to contribute rubbish just to gain the privileges, but perhaps to make it at least a little more difficult. If you had to have 1000 points, who is going to sign up repeatedly under 10 different names to post rubbish knowing they have to gain 1000 points each time to do it? There could be a disclaimer put up too, so that when you enter the groups you have to agree to the T+C and then those shown breaking it could be banned. A code of conduct which is strictly adhered to can be extremely efficient. A ratio could be implemented? Like download websites have, input:output and then anything considered not contributing to the site could be classed as output (eg posting copiously) and then if your ratio becomes poor you can be messaged to say "contribute more" etc and that person will then have a choice between pulling their finger out, or wasting away. This way spammers would just be sealing their own doom.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:19 - A code of conduct would be good - for now, a mere overview of general expectations seems like it would suffice. A lot of the things people get marked off for in strict forums are a little over the top for this one. People should be banned by their computer id, or one of those types of permanent bannings, especially if it's a second offense in which they return. I think certain reviews can be amusing at one or two sentences, but if 100 points were to become the standard reward for reviews and only if they fit a character limit, I'd be completely satisfied. Most of the people that write somehow helpful short reviews (not many in comparison to the ones that just spam) just want to share their opinion, so they won't mind being left out of site ranking.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:24 - wait, not the whole groups...
Just delete the anime section and then remake it. insta-fresh start lol
Just delete the anime section and then remake it. insta-fresh start lol
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:25 - No that wouldn't work as they would start to spam instantly
it'd probably be worse
it'd probably be worse
Devious Phenomenon
17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:29 - oh shit your right... good call R.V
yeah... but that WOULD work later, after our plan finally starts to affect them more, then it will be easy
yeah... but that WOULD work later, after our plan finally starts to affect them more, then it will be easy
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:29 - The first thing to do is ban the most negative members. Then a backlash will occur in which other members will do something that will get them banned as well and others will notice the tighter shift and leave the situation alone. Then I'd say an instant refreshing of the section would be best unless the moderators feel there's worth to be saved in any of the threads.
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17 years, 2 months ago at Mar 6 23:51 - nope...nothing worth saving in that pile of shit section...
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 7 15:17 - The first thing to do is ban the most negative members.
And how would a "negative" member be defined? That's far too vague and is really just a matter of perception.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 7 16:54 - hmmm Like for example sorry for bringing ghosts but minato
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 7 17:53 - By negative I'm sure he means those who bring a downer on the site. Like the Spammers, the RPers, the Perverted Picture Poster, the Multiple Account Havers, the non-contributors and the Lier!
I'm sad to say that also the abusive people who are trying to get rid of the above, make it a hostile 'negative' enviroment too. But at least they are doing something!! We are the Allies in the war against the oppressors. But rest assured, once it is all sorted there won't be need for hostility against ignorance.
I'm sad to say that also the abusive people who are trying to get rid of the above, make it a hostile 'negative' enviroment too. But at least they are doing something!! We are the Allies in the war against the oppressors. But rest assured, once it is all sorted there won't be need for hostility against ignorance.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 3:41 - And how would a "negative" member be defined? That's far too vague and is really just a matter of perception.
The antagonist above me pretty much explained it. Perception is what most moderators will need to use for decision making, in fact, unless it gets to the point that we need a strict rulebook. It'll be like King Solomon.
I'm sad to say that also the abusive people who are trying to get rid of the above, make it a hostile 'negative' enviroment too.
That's mainly what I've been afraid of.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 4:42 - replace RPers with OBSSESSED RPers,
Rpers are fine(Such as Mardiax, myself and Sasaki) But Obssessed ones, whom have the idea that this is rping:
I am unbeatable rips persons heart out and then runs up a wall Cant touch this bitch
lol lol lol the funny thing is, if you asked every anime person on here how they RPed, it would all be that, or VERY close to that lol
Im going to go ask around to see the current situation on the group we have... It was at 14 yesterday, almost 16
Rpers are fine(Such as Mardiax, myself and Sasaki) But Obssessed ones, whom have the idea that this is rping:
I am unbeatable rips persons heart out and then runs up a wall Cant touch this bitch
lol lol lol the funny thing is, if you asked every anime person on here how they RPed, it would all be that, or VERY close to that lol
Im going to go ask around to see the current situation on the group we have... It was at 14 yesterday, almost 16
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 5:07 - Wow i haven't seen you in forever Thilian
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 6:22 - replace RPers with OBSSESSED RPers,
Obsession's so painful. It's a lot more enjoyable when you like something and can appreciate it. When you're obsessed you're never going to be satisfied no matter what. We can also seperate these two types by good and bad RPers.
Wow i haven't seen you in forever Thilian
I know. It's a small website after all, eh?
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 12:24 - By negative I'm sure he means those who bring a downer on the site.
In that case, I would personally include all those people who spend so much time whining and complaining about the anime kids. It's all so very pointless and tiresome.
I don't know that I necessarily consider the "the non-contributors" as downers. As long as they're not doing anything to annoy other members and/or are posting decent conversations in the forum there's nothing wrong with that.
You're being just too vague and generalized for me.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 13:07 - I don't know that I necessarily consider the "the non-contributors" as downers.
Obviously there is a quota of people who join up and then forget that they ever did. But by non-contributers I was referring to the MySpace Generation of the 12-14 years olds. Most of them don't even have Collection Stats and have never written a review. Then they try to add every other member, a majority of the time without cause! So how on Earth are they beneficial to this site?
In that case, I would personally include all those people who spend so much time whining and complaining about the anime kids. It's all so very pointless and tiresome._
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 8 22:37 - We could all be a little more imaginative, I suppose.
The path Voxy is using is not to provoke the Naruts, I believe, which does reduce imflammation. It's gotten to the point that members have become so annoyed by the Naruts that they tend to echo what makes them so unappealing. I think simply correcting rule-violating members is the best route to take for those that want to stay in the forum and fix things up. For the ones that are severely frustrated, it's best to cool down for a bit.
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The path Voxy is using is not to provoke the Naruts, I believe, which does reduce imflammation. It's gotten to the point that members have become so annoyed by the Naruts that they tend to echo what makes them so unappealing. I think simply correcting rule-violating members is the best route to take for those that want to stay in the forum and fix things up. For the ones that are severely frustrated, it's best to cool down for a bit.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 9 12:26 - So how on Earth are they beneficial to this site?
Perhaps they're not adding to the growth of the site, but, in my opinion, if they're not hindering its growth either there's no sense in removing them altogether. At that point, you're just promoting genocide for all members whom you deem as "useless."
The path Voxy is using is not to provoke the Naruts
That's exactly it. I've found that for every comment by a member who feels they are "speaking up" (often by being even more rude and by insulting them incessantly) there are ten more posts by those young users continuing their useless banter in defense of themselves.
If I had created a website like this and every time I logged on all I heard about was people complaining about other users, I would tell them to grow up! You're how old and can't seem to get along in a virtual forum of users?
We've made our complaints long ago, we've offered multiple suggestions, and given lots of advice for improving the issue. I've also offered my two cents where I thought relevant. This isn't something new so don't think you can come along and fix it by being "more clear." The only thing you can do now is wait until Tom finds the time to implement the changes he agrees with. If you're really that concerned about the quality of the site, then you'll be dedicated enough to stick around until that happens and help him work out the bugs like the rest of us.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 9 12:40 - Actually it was Thilian who wanted to ban the 'negative members', then you asked to define negative. I did since no one else was bothering, I never said banning the non-contributors (the ones who join up and then forget they have an account) was the solution.
Voxy is just Switzerland. She doesn't like doing anything because she thinks she is better than everyone else. I've stuck around for long enough and have never threatened to leave because of the current setting. I believe in this site, I just hate it being in the path of the Spam Machine.
Voxy is just Switzerland. She doesn't like doing anything because she thinks she is better than everyone else. I've stuck around for long enough and have never threatened to leave because of the current setting. I believe in this site, I just hate it being in the path of the Spam Machine.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 9 12:41 - Voxy the reason people "speak up" about it more and more is because the problem is a very long on going one, by making some noise we are asking for it to be a priority to work this bug out as soon as possible!
Also, since nothing has been done, it also serves as a way of actually TRYING to save Tom the time by fixing it ourselves. If we talk to the parties at fault they might actually understand what they are doing and listen one day. How far has lodging your complaints really gotten things? It might eventually be fixed, but mainly because of the uproar surrounding it.
It does also seem that so far the past couple of days have been pretty quiet, people are actually conforming and avoiding confrontation by sticking to the areas they have been asked to. So in a sense the arguing has served its purpose. The main groups section is a lot quieter now. It is not a "genocide" every one is welcome to the site, it would be pointless to have a site with only 100 or so members. People just want them to actually act like they are using the site for its ACTUAL purpose and not for the many other possible purposes it could serve as if it was an every day myspace/facebook. Most points have been covered so i wont continue further, but try to understand we are not just a bunch of internet "trolls" who fancy abusing some children to pass the time, its actually something that is bringing the site down and needs to be repaired desperately.
Also, since nothing has been done, it also serves as a way of actually TRYING to save Tom the time by fixing it ourselves. If we talk to the parties at fault they might actually understand what they are doing and listen one day. How far has lodging your complaints really gotten things? It might eventually be fixed, but mainly because of the uproar surrounding it.
It does also seem that so far the past couple of days have been pretty quiet, people are actually conforming and avoiding confrontation by sticking to the areas they have been asked to. So in a sense the arguing has served its purpose. The main groups section is a lot quieter now. It is not a "genocide" every one is welcome to the site, it would be pointless to have a site with only 100 or so members. People just want them to actually act like they are using the site for its ACTUAL purpose and not for the many other possible purposes it could serve as if it was an every day myspace/facebook. Most points have been covered so i wont continue further, but try to understand we are not just a bunch of internet "trolls" who fancy abusing some children to pass the time, its actually something that is bringing the site down and needs to be repaired desperately.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 9 23:06 - Actually it was Thilian who wanted to ban the 'negative members', then you asked to define negative. I did since no one else was bothering, I never said banning the non-contributors (the ones who join up and then forget they have an account) was the solution.
I feel a backlash will be caused by the implementation of moderators, in which case banning may occur.
Voxy is just Switzerland. She doesn't like doing anything because she thinks she is better than everyone else. I've stuck around for long enough and have never threatened to leave because of the current setting. I believe in this site, I just hate it being in the path of the Spam Machine.
I support what Voxy has to say. You're speaking of not giving up, but this isn't a Roman war or anything. Tactically, the best we can do is not cause a snowball effect in response to drizzle.
It does also seem that so far the past couple of days have been pretty quiet, people are actually conforming and avoiding confrontation by sticking to the areas they have been asked to. So in a sense the arguing has served its purpose. The main groups section is a lot quieter now. It is not a "genocide" every one is welcome to the site, it would be pointless to have a site with only 100 or so members. People just want them to actually act like they are using the site for its ACTUAL purpose and not for the many other possible purposes it could serve as if it was an every day myspace/facebook. Most points have been covered so i wont continue further, but try to understand we are not just a bunch of internet "trolls" who fancy abusing some children to pass the time, its actually something that is bringing the site down and needs to be repaired desperately.
I'm pretty sure all of these points have been covered, but then again what I'm about to say probably has, too. If we're going to give credit to a response, it might as well be a response to a response. The complaining by members against trollers really just causes a bigger mess until other members respond to that and plans are made. The Naruts wanting to be more involved with the site started collaborating, and the most efficient way to update the site was conversed about by the others with less distraction. Some threads in the vein of actual discussion certainly helped. The psychology case of relativity here is that of arguing with a six year old, or stomping your feet because the dog ate your lolly.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 9 23:15 - I am sorry Thilian im not sure if i fully understand your post, so excuse me if i misinterpret it etc. What has essentially happened so far is the groups were a mess, people spamming everywhere. An argument broke out, people got angry, and it has all stopped. Thats great and so far things have quietened down. I think there is little need to discuss it any further now until something is done, but before it was very necessary and it worked. If things get bad again then things might blow up, but so far things are fine really, 1 or 2 children are still not getting the point etc but you cant win them all!! Thats where moderation will come into play.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 10 12:21 - Antagonist, you yourself may not necessarily agree with the definition you gave but that just goes to prove my point about how vague the term "negative members" could be. For everyone, there are different levels and different irritants.
Please don't assume anything about me, or that you know what kind of person I might be from the exchange of a few words. Having an opinion does not mean I'm also egotistical.
She doesn't like doing anything because she thinks she is better than everyone else.
Please don't assume anything about me, or that you know what kind of person I might be from the exchange of a few words. Having an opinion does not mean I'm also egotistical.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 10 13:21 - I've been reading your posts for over the past year Voxy. I may not have spoke up much back then but that doesn't mean I wasn't there. Don't think my entire opinion of you is constructed from this thread alone.
What negative members do I not cover in my 'shit' definition then?
What negative members do I not cover in my 'shit' definition then?
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 3:54 - You guys should tell each other what's making you angry.
I'm wondering.. I was the one that used the simplistic term 'negative members'. I don't think you're dwelling singularly on the fact that I wasn't entirely specific, because I feel as if there are other factors contributing to your response. From the following statement...
...you indicate that your motives for reacting are rooted from an entire lifetime of influence rather than just getting on the internet and doing this and that.
Ironic as it is a request (considering the circumstances), I'm going to have to ask you to be more specific Mr. A. I'm looking forward to some hardcore communication in this thread.
Antagonist, you yourself may not necessarily agree with the definition you gave but that just goes to prove my point about how vague the term "negative members" could be. For everyone, there are different levels and different irritants.
I'm wondering.. I was the one that used the simplistic term 'negative members'. I don't think you're dwelling singularly on the fact that I wasn't entirely specific, because I feel as if there are other factors contributing to your response. From the following statement...
Please don't assume anything about me, or that you know what kind of person I might be from the exchange of a few words. Having an opinion does not mean I'm also egotistical.
...you indicate that your motives for reacting are rooted from an entire lifetime of influence rather than just getting on the internet and doing this and that.
Ironic as it is a request (considering the circumstances), I'm going to have to ask you to be more specific Mr. A. I'm looking forward to some hardcore communication in this thread.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 4:45 - Personally, the number of threads that I feel interested in joining have been fewer and fewer as the days go by. Therefore I can certainly see the appeal of getting rid of this section altogether. It is really not a necessity for this site or its purpose.
I can't see how a site like this could go anywhere without a forum section, where you can discuss movies, books etc. What's the alternative? People holed up on their profile pages PM:ing each other. If there's no topics you feel joining, why don't you resurrect old topics or start a few new ones? Whip up a dozen new ones, you seem clever enough to come up with ideas. Just don't expect too much, and there's no harm done if they don't catch fire. I cant do it cause I've got the usual problems: low self-esteem, no interesting ideas, not good with expressing opinions BLAH BLAH... There's got to be people who lead the way, and set a good example on how to use the forums.
As for who are negative members, I'd say those who break the rules. So we have to come up with simple rules/guidelines on how to behave on the forums. And write them down and make them known. I see there's finally some moderation here, but I can't see the guidelines anywhere. I should see them here, right next to the "reply to thread" box as I'm typing.
Oh yeah, and big welcome back to the Emu above me.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:02 - Dale, guidelines are sort of 'whatever is right' as I think I'm only mod for now, while the mod features are being tested. There will be more mods, with a Mod-only group where we can discuss guidelines and rules.
but basically, here's my preliminary guideline:
- cussing is ok.. the occasional F-bomb or whatever, some boards are strict on it, but I personally don't care --- but excessive cussin', especially if its directed at another user, I'll stop that
- no excessive off-topic posts (off-topic is ok, as even I'm guilty of it, but once it gets way out of hand, especially into personal flame wars, it will get locked)
- no crap posts outside of Random Chat area (you know, the typical :D, ....., hyia!, hihi, LOLz, and other responses that certain users employ for 95% of their posting)
- zero tolerance on posts with personal threats, suicide threats, or posting of sex images
- I've deleted one post that was excessive bandwith (in SSBB thread in games) where over 60+ images were posted in one post... its great for some, but if a dial-up or even wireless laptop user were to log on, the page could lock them up with that many images.
- and naturally, posts in wrong group will be moved to correct group, and if any post (especially anime thread) that drift off into random chit chat, they will be moved to Random Chat, even if they originally started off with a slightly related topic... this last rule is really for all those RP sessions in anime that seem to go on forever and drift into chatting and then bickering and fighting... i dont think any post in Games, Movies or Music has got so bad it needed to be moved to Random Chat. :)
Anime group has its own simple rules which I've posted there, and hopefully it will get cleaned up soon.
but basically, here's my preliminary guideline:
- cussing is ok.. the occasional F-bomb or whatever, some boards are strict on it, but I personally don't care --- but excessive cussin', especially if its directed at another user, I'll stop that
- no excessive off-topic posts (off-topic is ok, as even I'm guilty of it, but once it gets way out of hand, especially into personal flame wars, it will get locked)
- no crap posts outside of Random Chat area (you know, the typical :D, ....., hyia!, hihi, LOLz, and other responses that certain users employ for 95% of their posting)
- zero tolerance on posts with personal threats, suicide threats, or posting of sex images
- I've deleted one post that was excessive bandwith (in SSBB thread in games) where over 60+ images were posted in one post... its great for some, but if a dial-up or even wireless laptop user were to log on, the page could lock them up with that many images.
- and naturally, posts in wrong group will be moved to correct group, and if any post (especially anime thread) that drift off into random chit chat, they will be moved to Random Chat, even if they originally started off with a slightly related topic... this last rule is really for all those RP sessions in anime that seem to go on forever and drift into chatting and then bickering and fighting... i dont think any post in Games, Movies or Music has got so bad it needed to be moved to Random Chat. :)
Anime group has its own simple rules which I've posted there, and hopefully it will get cleaned up soon.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:11 - oh, almost forgot, SPAM = ZERO TOLERANCE as well :)
although it would be nice to have other mods to discuss certain issues with. Example, I deleted those 'Viking' book posts by that user who is also author of the book. I'm not sure if it was a mistake or not. Is it spam? is it marketing of this book? Basically, he's the author, and he was posting several threads of extracts from his own book, and only was listing his book and nothing else in his collection. It's unique marketing, even if a bit in-your-face, but is it true spam? I hate to be only one making such a call. But deleted threads are just hidden and will be able to be reversed (undeleted), so that's also good to know.
although it would be nice to have other mods to discuss certain issues with. Example, I deleted those 'Viking' book posts by that user who is also author of the book. I'm not sure if it was a mistake or not. Is it spam? is it marketing of this book? Basically, he's the author, and he was posting several threads of extracts from his own book, and only was listing his book and nothing else in his collection. It's unique marketing, even if a bit in-your-face, but is it true spam? I hate to be only one making such a call. But deleted threads are just hidden and will be able to be reversed (undeleted), so that's also good to know.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:11 - Why not make these preliminary guidelines plus the fact that there is now moderation, into a sticky thread (locked, possibly?)that would appear on top of all groups, like the "About this forum" thread? Yunno, a NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN thread.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:14 - sticky threads would be nice to have. not sure if its in works. there's a few of my own posts, like 'Game series', or 'New and upcoming game', which should probably stay at the top of page. ;P
and I already made a 'new sheriff in town' thread in anime group lol.. not sure if rest of groups needs to know as they are fine *most* of the time.
and I already made a 'new sheriff in town' thread in anime group lol.. not sure if rest of groups needs to know as they are fine *most* of the time.
Moderator Seaworth
17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:17 - Will you get a badge that says Moderator on it? I can't help but see so many of the younguns thinking that VIP Star is your authority.
VIP Moderator Prelude
17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 13:49 - yeah, that already happened last night in Anime section (they aint the brightest cookies, to say the least). I had to explain difference between moderator and VIP, but I used more than 1 line in my response so they probably didnt read it.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 17:31 - lol funny prelude it seems that me yama and a few others are the only ones who actualy try to rate things properly
Moderator Seaworth
17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 17:35 - Whats that supposed to mean Vince?
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 17:37 - as in the majority of them don't do anything they mostly spam although most of it has been cleared
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 18:45 - It doesn't matter who originally used the term "negative member", that's not my point. All I said was that one had to be careful because it could be way too vague. If that was used as a rule by a moderater (i.e. "We will hearby ban all negative members"), it could mean anything. One has to be more specific than that as it is open to far too much interpretation and allows mods to power trip.
Antagonist sort of proved that by offering examples of what you might have meant by that term... then following it up by saying he might not necessarily agree with those.
I do agree with Dale that once the rules are established it should be clearly posted for all to see... Sort of the way Prelude has them listed right now. That way it isn't open to interpretation and all users understand exactly how to best behave.
Antagonist sort of proved that by offering examples of what you might have meant by that term... then following it up by saying he might not necessarily agree with those.
I do agree with Dale that once the rules are established it should be clearly posted for all to see... Sort of the way Prelude has them listed right now. That way it isn't open to interpretation and all users understand exactly how to best behave.
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17 years, 1 month ago at Mar 11 22:23 - - cussing is ok.. the occasional F-bomb or whatever, some boards are strict on it, but I personally don't care --- but excessive cussin', especially if its directed at another user, I'll stop that
I don't like for it to get to the extent that all a user ever posts are sentences comprised of cussing (it's entirely feasible), because that tends to be equivalent to spam. We'll need guidelines for members cussing at other members to make clear the difference between what breaks a rule and what doesn't hurt feelings. Instances of sexual harassment or malice won't go with the former.
It doesn't matter who originally used the term "negative member", that's not my point. All I said was that one had to be careful because it could be way too vague. If that was used as a rule by a moderater (i.e. "We will hearby ban all negative members"), it could mean anything. One has to be more specific than that as it is open to far too much interpretation and allows mods to power trip.
I'll improve on that, then. Thanks for explaining.
Oh yeah, and big welcome back to the Emu above me.
Oh shut up.