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BluFalcon 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 7:03 -
It may has bugs.. It has the option to select Display images per page to 100 but it saws 10.. And when i change it to a different value it goes me to a blanc page with a profile frame at left :S
Why don't you leave the old page as choice for a little time to fix the bugs..
DuckNation 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 7:52 -
Why do profiles the have been added with no IMDb page attached have "buy at Amazon" link on it?

Also why cant we have blockquote, youtube videos or the option to center text within our profile
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 8:39 -
Ok - so I wake up and go to Listal. Still bedding in obviously. First of all I disagree with the purist gauntlet response. Some may post garbage to get points. I don't and most others don't. That comment was merely insulting.

On the positive side I think the pictures that are showing are stunningly clear. On the negative the servers aren't showing them.

I don't think I have the problems with lists that others do because I don't do anything fancy. But then I haven't done anything to my lists since the change because of the image problem.

I want to remain a fan of Listal and I hope this can all be sorted and I am sure the transition is a torrid time. But if I might add one another comment in reply to Gauntlet. If so many of these comments are coming from people who use the site a lot their comments should be listened to and not tetchily dismissed. otherwise a lot of people will go - and the people who comment will be people who care - many others will jus pack their bags and go.

Of course if the intention is for this to be a site for a relatively small group of purists that is another thing entirely.
TheKnight12 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 9:47 -
Why is it showing my notifications on my phone. It looks so stupid this new style. Bring back old Listal.
Iceviper 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 9:55 -
I sort of like the new look, but then again I didn't have a problem with the previous version....or the one before that. Change sucks, just because I have to relearn what I already thought I knew in an attempt to fix something that wasn't really a problem but an annoyance to some. You'll never make everyone happy. it's just a choice of who tho mollify in/for a specific period of time.

Not for nothing, I kinda liked the points system. It showed who the active users were, good and bad. Abolishing it may put a speed bump in the path of those who posted for points only, but it also punishes the members who didn't. It's like abolishing all alcohol because some people drive drunk.

Just my opinion.

Good luck.

Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 10:27 -
It's a shame the point system wasn't removed completely , IMO. I have been guilty of creating crap myself (I actually binned about 70 of my worthless lists a few weeks ago), but if it got rid of crap like hot dates/walking the street/other random women lists, it could only be described as a good thing.

We've moved our focus back to tv/film, much more interesting, but it doesn't generate the points/votes.
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 10:33 -
Ok so I have now uploaded images and I must say that it is faster than before. However I think mods may have made a bit more work for themselves. before when I uploaded to a named actors galleries I was quite content to back through the pages to check that I wasn't duplicating images. Now that is going to be too much hassle given that there are more pages to go through now that there are fewer images per page.

Sorry if I now duplicate images. I am content to look through all when there are a couple of hundred but not more than that.

Just I hope helpful comment for the designers and mods. Incidentally I am now warming to it.
Exclusive 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 11:48 -
It's mostly fine for me, but it think it looks really weird now with the photos stuck far to the left and the text is in the middle like here for example: www.listal.com/list/exclusives-2015-movie-diary
Is there anyway to fix that? It's not a major issue, but it just looks ugly.

EDIT: Wait, you removed the code we used to add photos from Listal to out lists? Why? That was so easy to use. This new system just seems overly convoluted. Now we have to google the photos we want to use, download them to our computer and then upload them again just for our list? That is ridicules. Can you just put those codes back?
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Tom 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 12:06 -
The problem with the 20 image limit has been fixed

I am trying to fix any remaining image load issues but a lot has been fixed now and sites and images are loading fast.
Oliver 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 12:21 -
I like the new site, and I am sure others will get used to it too. The older version started to look a little outdated. As long as the pictures load properly, I am fine!
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 12:24 -
EDIT: Wait, you removed the code we used to add photos from Listal to out lists? Why? That was so easy to use. This new system just seems overly convoluted. Now we have to google the photos we want to use, download them to our computer and then upload them again just for our list? That is ridicules. Can you just put those codes back?


That is the biggest issue for me with the new site. We're trying to sort our lists out, but it's such hard work. The site does look nice, the font on the lists is pleasing to the eye, but I'm just not sure that full html coding is the right way to go. As much an anything else, I don't want links hidden behind images on Listal.
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 12:48 -
The list section description box could do with a drag to enlarge. It's like peaking through a letterbox.
burnodo 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 12:56 -
OCH! "View Primary Image" is gone again :-(
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emberlin 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 13:03 -
Some new options are great - like the header image for lists, and adding custom items without creating a page for the item.

But... I just don't understand how to add images from galleries in the new list note editor...

And where is the button to go to the next page in the lists? Is there going to be the option to load more only at the bottom of the list? That's really bad for long lists.
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Tom 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 13:42 -
" But... I just don't understand how to add images from galleries in the new list note editor... "

It's broken at the moment but will be fixed soon
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reallly 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 14:28 -
emberlin!
I tested,an easy way is to right click any picture you want(not thumbnails if you want them big) here at listal and choose copy and then just paste it in the noteeditor box!
That goes for pics from anywhere on the web,just copy pic and paste it into the box.
No need clicking insert image,or copy any code,it's enough with just copying the pic you want to add to the list.
But don't forget to choose the option link image, if it is a listal image,so people can click it and vote if they want to!
4crazyweldermen 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 14:38 -
A lot of complainers on here. Be patient or at least do something productive by having constructive comments. Not by being some self entitled loser behind a tv screen.
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 14:55 -
Moderators, is there a new "bugs" discussion page/thread? I have a lot of items to list, but I don't think this is the place to do it.
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reallly 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 15:01 -
Woho adding pictures to image lists is a quicker and a smoother process!
Great for people who have a lot of image lists,just type in some letters or the name of the list you want to add the img to...SO now I don't need to change the names of my lists just to get them in a specific order!
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 15:05 -
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Mr. Heisenberg 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 15:32 -
Just came on Listal. Everything has changed. What has happened to the layout? Why are the pictures on the items disappeared? Everything has changed.
Dark Warrior 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 17:03 -
it's the end of a great site for me... i can't do nothing anymore except downloading some pictures : (
redrobin 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 18:01 -
Just wanna say the site is fine for me. Okay there are some open issues but you know - like other new software or update you get in your company...
so i will learn to live with those changes.

@Ranking System
As Iceviper already wrote - its like you ban alcohol because some don't know or accept limits.
For me the Ranking System was fun. I can live without it but it was more fun to see who is active, who has done how many lists and so on...

Give the changes a chance after the issues are fixed. And it seems Tom is working hard on it....
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 18:17 -
Listal Moderators,
I'm sorry you're getting so much negative feedback and vitriol. I can understand both sides of the argument here. I've launched websites before and certainly understand the many potential issues with such a complex (and FREE) site. So here's my perspective and feedback on the site redesign.

When I visit Listal, I look forward to potentially learning new things about people and places. I enjoy browsing through a well though out, attractively designed list of interesting people, events, music, movies, places, and the fascinating different perspectives of others looking at the same thing. It's this exchange of ideas that intrigues me most. So when I put together lists of my own, I try to invoke some of that idea exchange. Anyone viewing my profile and/or lists should have no doubt that I love red hair, even though mine is black. So I try to design a list that reflects just how I view redheads, and others. Referencing my Listal Profile & three of my lists, ( Alina, My Alina, Pretty Reds, & Beauty Of The Stairs, here is some hopefully constructive feedback regarding some items that may have upset some users:
-The addition of some editing elements such as the "bold, italics, link..." buttons in the "add/edit comments" sections surely makes those list enhancements easier for some who may not understand html coding. And I applaud the additions. However, at the same time, the ability to add comments using simple html as before has been removed. Editing the side-bar content using html is still unaffected. Therefore, it's very frustrating to know that it's possible with the redesign, but not implemented. Trying to do the same things with the limited tools you've given us is impossible. (or maybe I just haven't yet figured out how to manipulate pages with your new tools...)
-Just a little while ago, I tried to insert a new image in the middle of a comment block using the "insert image" button, but it only inserts the image at the top of the comment block. I could not drag it to the desired location (or any other location for that matter).
-I tried to post some basic html code using the old [code][/code] tags, but no joy.
-In many of my lists, I use the

tags as seen in the Beauty Of The Stairs list. For me, typing the code as I type/edit the text is almost second nature. But to use the h2 tag in the redesign, I had to type the text, highlight the text, press the bold button, edit the text, click on source, then add in the h2 tag, then save that just to get the same effect! That sort of thing is driving some of your most loyal Listal members away right now. I can't imagine creating Alina, My Alina using such convoluted tools and methods.
-When editing a note, clicking on the Format Block tool opens a drop-down menu that doesn't disappear until you Save/Cancel the edit.
-When editing a longer note, you must constantly scroll to the tools bar at the top of the note, then back to your edit point, because the tool bar does not float.

These are just some initial thoughts and comments. Did not want to write a book here (although I seem to have already started one!). More feedback to follow. Bottom line: a lot of frustration could be appeased by allowing the use of the same html coding as before, in addition to the great improvements you made to the site! It's definitely NOT all doom & Gloom!
1234! 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 18:26 -
Not a fan of the new lay out . It seems you have to go looking for things instead of they were just there in front of you.
Log Lady 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 18:30 -
I have to partly agree with Gypsyjew22. There are a lot of people here who do have valid suggestions and report bugs, but only complaining how everything has changed and a great site has been ruined, without elaborating what exactly it is that you don't like... That's not helpful at all. Tom is clearly working hard to fix the issues, so let's just give the site a chance. Change always feels weird, but I'm pretty sure most of us will get used to it. Giving up a few hours after the launch doesn't seem fair.

My lists look exactly the same as they did before and no problems have arisen as of yet, but I think it's because I prefer to keep my lists clean instead of doing something overly complicated. Some lists others have do look a bit weird, though.

The font I'm not so sure about, but overall the layout isn't really that different than before. Cleaner and more modern, maybe.

I also want to say I adore the search box's instant results! It's what I've always wanted Listal to have, and now it's finally easier to search items. Thanks for that!
Agent Kermit D. Fonz 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 18:34 -
How do you add, pictures into boxes now?
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 19:07 -
How the heck can you add images to your list like you were able to do before? A "Help" and/or FAQ link would help out tremendously. Thank you.
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JROCK1772 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 19:32 -
I feel, as Log Lady said, I have not been as appreciative to Tom for his efforts in trying to improve the Listal community. So thank you Tom, first and foremost. However, I do not feel obligated to apologize for "giving up," as the majority of the time and effort I have put into Listal has been completely taken away from me. Here are my issues, so as to make it clear, instead of simply complaining, which apparently I seemed to be doing before in the eyes of some users.

1) Editing list text boxes
A good chunk of my lists have currently blown up (literally, the images have grown to sizes beyond what I originally coded them to be at). The major problem, in my opinion, is that it is way too complicated to try and improve the sizes. In fact, my page freezes nearly every time I adjust the size/width.

2) Images are still collapsing
Hopefully this isn't nagging, as this has been mentioned dozens of comments before me. But it is still occurring for me. A lot of my images just pop up as the tiny blue question-marked box. I understand if the site is in need of revitalization in order to improve this, as it is a large update.

Thanks to the moderators if they are considering where I am coming from. This site has been a personal joy for me and I have met some wonderful people here, but the fact that I have no clue how to use it anymore saddens me and truly makes it easy to simply log off. PLEASE, I am begging, perhaps return to the original format of inserting text and images, or at least provide the option of doing so. Thank you.
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emberlin 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 19:46 -
emberlin!
I tested,an easy way is to right click any picture you want(not thumbnails if you want them big) here at listal and choose copy and then just paste it in the noteeditor box!
That goes for pics from anywhere on the web,just copy pic and paste it into the box.
No need clicking insert image,or copy any code,it's enough with just copying the pic you want to add to the list.
But don't forget to choose the option link image, if it is a listal image,so people can click it and vote if they want to!


Your method worked!
TrekMedic 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 20:12 -
It should go without saying that Tom did put a lot of time and effort into this version of Listal, but again, as with many complaining about things, I can say:

1 - it isn't about points or ranking (although keep the points, since there is a notation that the point system in used to "encourage participation"), so I take exception to the likes of Gauntlet and others that think otherwise,...
2 - ahead of the rollout, instead of "surprise! here it is,...," I wish Tom had posted a definitive date and created some FAQs ahead of time as a tutorial for the new changes. As RedHeadLover said, it's VERY frustrating not being able to properly format lists as I wanted to because HTML codes no longer work.
3 - the changes were clearly so drastic that it looks like one of the best at the craft of making lists, Onion Jack, is packing up and leaving!

Whatever good you were trying to accomplish, Tom, please dial it back a little and introduce the changes in smaller increments!
Nosoki 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 20:18 -
I like the new editor on the list items very much. As I do like the list headers as a concept and the new rearrange page on the lists. They will make things a lot easier.

One thing that mostly bugs me is that "my page", "mail" and "logout" have been combined under one item that you have to scroll on to be able to choose from them. When there has been a chance to do these things directly with just one click, it now seems like a downgrade to have to do more than just that to do something as basic as this. The my profile link was the most useful for me as it was the way to go to my own page with just a mouse click. Now there have been cases when the images load very slowly and the page "jumps" a bit when they load at the time I have scrolled over my avatar image and the box has appeared. Then the box disappears and you'll have to open it again by scrolling over it. Perhaps this problem is only present now when some of the images have problems loading.

It would be very sweet if you would add a way to choose the thumbnail image for the lists from all of the images on the list instead of just the couple of the first ones that appear and the "default" option, which makes widescreen images cropped and look awful. The best solution would be the option to add a selected image straight from your computer as you can now do with the new list headers. Just a suggestion.

Why is the list-maker's star rating on the left side of the list and your own on the middle? It would look nicer if they were on the same level.

The big and wider poster images on the lists now leave an awful lot of empty space on the list under them if the item has a lot of text written or a big image under it. Is there a way to do something with the space? It seems like wasted space now.

The best thing about new Listal is the absence of the ranking system. Perhaps now people will add more content that matters instead of grinding points. This alone pretty much justifies every change. Thank you!

I still miss the ability to rearrange the order of my friends on the friends page. It was absent on the last version and I very much missed it then, so I think that this is something that should be brought back from the ancient incarnations of the site.
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 20:24 -
3 - the changes were clearly so drastic that it looks like one of the best at the craft of making lists, Onion Jack, is packing up and leaving!


Very close to it, wifey is nagging me to sort the personal project lists. There's been an awful lot of swearing today though. I'm trying to hang in here, it's been a great site.

And thank you.

Whatever happens, we'll be culling most of our lists.

Edit: The new coding is actually ok (apart from the ability to hide external links behind images), but only for making new lists, which is why we're currently working back through some of the 'Episode' lists and remaking them. It's just easier to remake them than fanny around with them. Not sure I'll last the course, but wifey will probably withhold the bacon if I show signs of weakening.

My concern is that we go through all this only for it all to change again in the future, but I guess you can only change to full html once.
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 21:20 -
Ok, this is a real make or break issue. We've remade lists and noticed that images were being reposted with new codes rather than directing to the images in the galleries. We corrected the image numbers in the code, but some just keep reverting to new versions, why is this happening?
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emberlin 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 21:45 -
Ok, this is a real make or break issue. We've remade lists and noticed that images were being remade with new codes rather than directing to the images in the galleries. We fixed this, but some just keep reverting to new versions, why is this happening?


This happened to me as well. I tried to edit list notes in html, and the images re-uploaded by themselves... some of them in a tiny size.
Just some examples:
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265255
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265259
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265650

some in bigger size
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265668
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265667
www.listal.com/viewimage/9265669

Luckily I had the links to the original images saved, and I managed to fix it.

But now I'm afraid to edit lists until the bug is fixed, because I don't want to lose links to the galleries.
Onion Jack 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 21:49 -
The images might revert back even if you don't edit the item on a list, it's just happened to my wife in a series of images we fixed earlier. she has been working the list, but hasn't touched that particular code since we fixed it. And I checked another list I finished remaking earlier and images there have reverted back to the newly uploaded versions too.

It's particularly bad in this list (these are some we actually went through and fixed once)... www.listal.com/list/peep-show
The small thumbnails for the ladies in both of the main character entries are there so people can click on them, but with this bug, all you get is the same sized image.

I've also noticed that when switching between source modes (reclicking the source button to preview), there is often duplicated font code appearing that I have to find and remove. It just pops up all over the place.
Mr. Heisenberg 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 22:29 -
Has the html codes changed. It seems like I can't upload a picture from URL using the code.
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Log Lady 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 22:46 -
Well, I wasn't really talking about you in particular, JROCK1772, but listing specific problems does help getting the site running smoothly more quicker. I do agree that in some respects this version seems to be a little unfinished and there's a lot of issues that people are facing. I hope they are all resolved so that we can continue enjoying the site.

I have an issue on the movie page, where tags and "watched", "wanted" and "add to list" boxes jump to the left side (between the poster and the cast, and the "add to list" box is cut in half) unless I zoom out the screen into a smaller size than usual (the links to lists on the left remain huge, though). I'm using a pretty small laptop, so that's probably why, but it would great if you'd reconsider the size of the layout and fonts.
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 23:30 -
You people have ruined a great web site; you won't address my questions, you don't have a "help" or a "faq" link so many of our concerns are addressed. Have you ever hear of the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it?" Apparently you haven't.
Mr. Heisenberg 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 21 23:32 -
This is pissing me off. The codes has changed. How I am suppose to make my league polls when the codes aren't working. Bring back the old Listal and codes. I can't even place something in the center when I was using center code in my item lists.
IsabellaSilentRose 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 0:54 -
What I really love about the new site is that you are able to search for people, movies etc. a lot easier than before. Which is very userfriendly and improves my experience one here while creating lists or posting pictures. I understand that a lof of people are upset about the changes and problems that came with it but I am sure Tom and the moderator team will try their best resolve the issues. So far what has really bothering me is that editing notes for lists is not working properly. Sometimes I can not type in text at all and have to reload the list and also when I try to resize the picture from the original size they are when you add them to the list they will not center for me. I think a FAQ or really structured topic where we will be able to find all issues and answers to those kind of questions would be epic. Also it is just me or are we not able to post picture using the enter key anymore?

One thing I will say though since a moderator mentioned it, is that I do believe some people are posting garbage images that are against the rules but these pictures seem not to be getting deleted. Same goes for duplicate sites for people or spammers. Instead pictures that are perfectly fine are being deleted while those who are against the rules stay. Very frustrating and disencouraging. I understand that there is only so much the mods can do and that the "other" option is there to make things easier for them. But sometimes it feels like pictures are being randomly deleted with no real reason behind it.
Mr.Worldwide 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 1:13 -
How do I blockquote images?
Mr.Worldwide 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 1:15 -
inserting "" does not work anymore???????
Mr.Worldwide 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 1:18 -

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Deanmon 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 1:27 -
Where is the image help page?!
I am creating a new list and i cant properly crop and shrink the images and place them where I want to??
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Deleted 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 1:27 -
I really like what you did with the searching, it has becoming very user-friendly. I only have one list that I will have to change around a lot. I hate that we can't re-size and image anymore, because some of the pictures are too big to scroll trough, when there are over 200 pictures in a list.

I thank you Tom for making so much effort to please so many people.
moviewatcher122 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 2:03 -
There are way too many purists on here with the "If it's broken, don't fix it." logic. This isn't the first time the layout of the site has changes and it won't be the last time either. The new layout still has it's bugs and I'll admit that I'm not used to the new layout myself, but I'll most likely get used to it sooner or later. With that said, I do agree that the old way of adding images was better and I think we should choose if we want to add them by code or not, but other than that this change isn't bad. There are some really cool features and they'll make the site even easier to use like searching for movies and re-arranging items. Also THANK YOU for finally having a pop-up box that asks you if you want to navigate away from the list. I can't tell you how many times I've written my thoughts on a movie in quite a bit of detail only to accidentally click away from it and having to start all over.
$outh 9 years, 8 months ago at Sep 22 2:10 -
I don't like this setup at all, prefer the old one.
To get on Katya Elise Henry's profile I had to search for about 4 teams before the site redirected me to it..... Now the same with Lauren Wood (III).
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