over 200 ratings?

How or why do people rate over 150 things in any category except movies?

I've rated 1,962 Movies! Perhaps its to do with age and opportunity?

and 1347 tv shows that i just don't believe

Why do you believe that this is strange? Nonfictionguy has also rated 865 items in music, 180 books, 113 games and 118 DVDs. He sees movies and he watches TV and he plays games and he listens to music and he reads books. He has also an opinion about the items and he expresses it by rating them -many members do exactly the same thing. I think that he must change his username to Manyinterestsguy. :)

After all, Listal isn't a site only about movies and it doesn't attract only movie fans.

I apologise for using you as an example, Nonfictionguy! :)

Zoz thats not an explanation.

So nonfic how many hours of your life have u spent watching tv and movies and reading etc? I bet ur over 100 years old or something. I didnt even know there were this many tv shows! Thats the how. Also how can you remember them? It must be your job or something!

What do the ratings mean if u only watched an episode? Or remember poorly. Its a poor indicator for the overal listall rating. When i see that many ratings i tend to ignore rating compatibility sort because, well it doesn't mean much.

i have been watching tv for about 54 years. some things i saw as a child, i remember more than things i saw last week. i watched some movies before vcrs but since vcrs i have watched much more. as i go through lists, i find stuff i know i probably saw but don't remember much. if i remember it well, i mark it. if i only remember that i watched it, i might give it 2 or maybe 3 stars. i usually remember if i really didn't like it or couldn't bear to finish watching it. in that case i either don't mark it or give it 1 or 2 stars. about episodes--- one episode usually gives you a good idea what the show is like. usually if you like it, you keep watching. when i only see one and can't find others to watch i would still say i liked it from that one episode. i remember a particular episode of --doctor kildare from about 47 years ago, and even saw a clip of it on you tube. i would guesstimate that i have spent at least 73,000 hoursin front of a viewing screeen.

I don't understand why the amount of ratings puzzles you so much, ran88dom99. Since, you focused on TV, I'll continue with it by just expressing a few thoughts.

The TV section of listal includes different types of items, not only series with many episodes. You will find movies, mini-series, shows of every kind there. For example, someone watches one TV movie every day and rates it. At the end of one year, he will have a very nice total of 365. This is not impossible to happen. Don't forget also that many people rate TV shows after renting DVDs and watching whole seasons in a few days. They don't wait to see an episode on TV now and the next one after a week, if a show is still on air.

I agree with audrey dobbs that you can have a good idea about a show from just one episode. A "try before you buy" thing. If you like it, you keep watching the show. If it is indifferent to you, you don't bother again and you don't even mark the item as "watched". And last but not least, if you really dislike it for many different reasons, you give it a low rating. I guess also that many older members of listal rate shows they had watched many many years ago and they remember poorly now, because they are nostalgic. Probably, I did that in a few cases with cartoons and other stuff from my childhood and teenage years.

Ratings are just an expression of personal opinion and taste, not only for TV shows, but for movies, music, games and books too. Ten people rate an item with 4 or 5 stars, because they really loved it and ten others rate the same item with half or 1 star, because they found it an absolute failure. There is nothing objective about this! This happens on IMDB about movies, if I'm not mistaken. The overall listal rating for an item comes from all the ratings that the members mark. For me, a high rating compatibility means that a particular person has similar taste with mine, so if he or she likes something, probably, I will find it good too and this indicator helps me, up to a point, choosing items to see, to listen, to play or to read. I think that reviews aren't objective either, but probably they are better indicators, since they give information. Don't ignore them.

i agree with everyone but ram88dom99 (no offense, sir)...i've rated (and own) a couple thousand games. how is this possible when some games can take 80+ hours to beat? simple; some games don't...some games (mostly in the 8-bit era and earlier) can literally take 10 minutes to beat. other times, after playing 10 hours of a 12 hour game, i feel as if i've played enough to slap an accurate rating on there...and if the last two hours alter my opinion in any way, i'm always free to go back and change my rating. i've also been reviewing games as a hobby since around '99, so that's over ten years worth of games played right there.

despite the huge number of games i've played, and are still playing, i still have plenty of time to work 40-70 hours a week, get out, and hang out with friends....so, technically if i was a total shut-in that never went out, i could have even more ratings than i already do.

that being said, i can easily see anyone on here having thousands of ratings for everything else. movies generally take an hour and 30 minutes a piece...you can easily watch a couple a day if you wanted to. most music cd's are in the same boat...multiple cd's can be rated in a single day...same with dvd's. you watch or listen to three a day in any of those categories and you've got over a thousand ratings in a year. many people can read an entire book in a day...they do that once a day and in three years, you've got over a thousand.

i honestly have problems understanding why anyone would think that just because someone has more than 200 ratings for something that their ratings are no longer legit. i'd imagine they'd be considered more legit because they've experienced so much of that product that they have a good handle on what works and what doesn't.

anyway, that's all i've got. apologies for the rant, folks. :)

The quantity is mind boggling. How do you have the time or the interest.
"I agree with audrey dobbs that you can have a good idea about a show from just one episode. A "try before you buy" thing. If you like it, you keep watching the show." Zoz
So ignore the poorly or indifferently rated items. They are, strangely for such large collections, not even half of the total.

"you watch or listen to three a day in any of those categories and you've got over a thousand ratings in a year. " ape
But not games or tv shows as those take 15 hrs average. How about a rating every four days?

TV movies are still in movies.

Ok, the listal general rating is very subjective and i think i would like to ignore effects on it.

1.5k movies emphasizes the issue of memory.

i never mentioned tv shows or games to that "three a day" list above. your 1 show rated every 4 days sounds pretty accurate....but with games, it all depends on what you play. i could probably review 10 or more atari 2600 games in a single day due to their short length, whereas a 100+ hour rpg is obviously gonna take me some time to muster up a score for it.

and unless they changed it recently (i know there was a suggestion to fix it a while ago), tv movies are actually listed in the tv shows section rather than the movies section. i believe that theater-based films, and straight-to-vhs or dvd releases are all listed in movies...but most made-for-tv films are listed under tv shows in the listal database.

I recently had to rate 400 of ANY item on another website. I had to resort to rating fruit and the dvds of 6 season shows to complete my quota. I rated them the same as the shows.
You , ape, as a reviewer for a hobby, can get those 3k game reviews. In fact u probably spend alot of time here at listal and in general thinking of things to review. Why do you only have 120 tv shows then?

Your saying some games are short. This is just like the items that are not enjoyed. If they are really short and liked add the length of time. If they are long and disliked add the time to get to dislike them. Take a few samples; apply to the population. Actually, there is a ratings sort so the effect of ratings can be estimated more accurately. And then there are the shows with ten seasons. That's just the practical ability.

Then there's interest memory and purpose.

Lets talk about purpose and how it is the most directly consequential for me. A rater will rate the more important things to them first. So when doing compatibility search a high compatibility with both people having rated few things means much more than when they have rated more. When someone is browsing the ratings they are more likely to see the important ratings in a smaller pool. I use comparability search pretty often.


So tv movies are in tv because of media and no other reason rather than all the characteristics they share with plain old movies. I dont have a tv so expect duplicates.

i don't really spend much time rating other items...if i see a movie, i'll toss a rating on it. if i see a bunch of tv shows (my rule is i've got to see at least 1/3 of all episodes made before i give it a score) i'll toss 'em on, too...but my main focus is games. i actually write reviews for games...i only give scores to everything else.

and you completely lost me with that paragraph about games being short hehe. i don't really understand what you mean by adding the length of time. i'm not saying you're wrong...i just don't really understand what exactly you're trying to say there.