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Anautix 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 8:03 -
@The O.P.

I totally agree with you.
Onion Jack 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 8:44 -
I support the removal of the friends function since it serves no purpose, why have something just for the sake of having it? I do agree that the term 'friends' is nicer than the term 'followers' though, but 'followers' seems to be the big word these days... the new 'bacon'.
Anautix 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 9:50 -
Facebook uses the term "friends" and Twitter "followers" afaik. It means more or less the same. But the function "followers" at listal is less than that, because you can follow who ever you want even someone you don't like and without the need of a permission. If you want to get rid of the terminology "friends", call it e.g. "Favorite Members".
SchwarzerAbt 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 11:05 -
I think the places category still needs some changes.
Currently you can only add title, description and release date.
While I don't think that "release date" is really a useful feature for a place, I think that adding a type would be a good idea (shop, restaurant, mountain, planet, etc.)

Also, for exploring the places I think it would be very nice to be able to browse them on a map, so an incorporation of googlemaps, openstreetmap, or something similar would be a great addition.
SchwarzerAbt 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 11:10 -
I also noted that you can rate items like places and fashion in the explore view, but not on their page itself.
Fraterlucis 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 12:38 -
I would second what The O.P. said concerning friends. I understand your reasoning, but O.P. points out, Following is one way and silent. A friend request is much more personal and requires approval. A person may want to be friends with some one to get in touch and check on at times, but not follow all their lists of a particular type.
SchwarzerAbt 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 2 13:18 -
For Art & Design, there could be the link to an artist (person).

Also, the link to "My Stuff / Fashion" is wrong.
It leads to username.betalistal.com/fashionexplore instead of username.betalistal.com/fashion
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Deleted 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 3 1:27 -
I definitely think it would be better if we could approve our 'followers'. In that respect 'friends' is much more preferable over followers, I really think we should have a choice in who we 'socialise' with on the site.
Maggie 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 3 3:02 -
I like what Victorian said about having a journal/blog function. I've actually always thought it would be fun for each member to have a sort of personal forum on their page where they could start conversations or post updates or whatever suited them. I thought it'd be a neat way to have conversations with groups instead of only private one-on-one messages. And the personal forum would be something only friends could access and/or post replies to.

Dreaming big, I know. xD

But I agree with the general flow of feelings in that instead of removing social functions, there should be more. Instead of removing friends for being useless, I'd rather them be GIVEN a use.
Tim J. 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 4 5:06 -
I am unable to access the new beta site...
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The O.P. 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 4 14:24 -
since the site runs on a old copy of the database any recent password changes will not work
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JaimeLeah 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 5 18:32 -
I agree with what Maggie said about adding some kind of social media function, I've always thought that would be helpful. I know that some of us do group projects and it would be nice to be able to message everyone into the conversation.

I would also like to be able to easily post what I've been working on so followers could check there if they didn't happen to catch it in their update feed. I know many of us have people who like to see just about everything we post and that doesn't happen if you're following more than a couple people.
La Dame Blanche 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 5 22:33 -
About images: some profile images are missing
.. and also ... a couple of movies are missing ...
... and A LOT OF cds I've heard are missing :( (actually they are about 220, on betalistal are about 160) ... :O
SchwarzerAbt 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 6 13:50 -
For the bookmarklet, there is a problem when adding items with special characters. When I tried to add "Edelweißspitze" the page was named "Edelwei" and had to be corrected manually.

Apart from all the error correction, I like the new site a lot. Just wanted to let you know! :-)

Edit: I re-read the first post and saw that fictional characters are not working yet.
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Deleted 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 7 0:44 -
It took me three years to figure out all the bells and whistles on regular Listal, I can't imagine how long it will take me to figure out Beta Listal - and I do agree about the profile page - I like it the way it is now and wouldn't want to see it changed to much.
DuckNation 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 7 4:42 -
Are we going to get a multi upload?
SchwarzerAbt 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 7 16:28 -
When creating a list you can no longer chose the primary picture of the first item as the list image, when you have used other pictures in the notes.

This is annoying for lists like this where the pictures in the notes are only illustrative of one feature (country flag), but the primary picture of an item (mountain) would be a much more representative image for the list.
ran88dom99 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 8 16:51 -
The addition of Web Show category is nice. "watched wanted" buttons are too big. Can't rate webshow from it's page. Any chance you could put "sort by contact's ratings" back in Listal? Comics include webcomics and manga? Cause both are in "books" right now. There will be a section move widget?

www.betalistal.com/web/errant-signal delete this. Bc: www.betalistal.com/web/errant-signal-2
TrekMedic 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 10 5:45 -
Quoting O.P.

The thing is, Friends feels social. Following is unilateral and silent, while a Friend request can be approved or rejected by the befriended person. I noticed people befriending me and not following me, and others following and not befriending...
As for Friends' practical purpose, I always thought of it as an address book, sort of a list of people I could get in touch with and keep an eye on sometimes. :)


I agree 100%. It's one thing to know who my friends are versus who is following me.
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Deleted 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 12 12:35 -
I don't care for it. Sorry.
almozayaf666 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 13 2:28 -
you need TAG system for lists
ran88dom99 11 years, 9 months ago at Aug 16 4:21 -
"tag lists" - can you give a very good example. I usually just look at what lists an item is in.
Anautix 11 years, 8 months ago at Aug 25 9:45 -
What will be the maximum possible width of a picture? Now only vertical pics have a good resolution, horizontal pics should be wider in resolution.

It would be a good idea to have a presentation mode in full screen when viewing an image list, maybe with the possibility of an automatic slide show.

Edit:
With the current version of listal, pictures in image lists disappear when they are deleted and/or replaced by a better version. In big lists it's difficult to know what picture has dissapeared. It would be a very nice feature if the new better image will automatically replace the old picture. Is it possible to implement that?
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Deleted 11 years, 8 months ago at Aug 28 2:21 -
I was thinking if there should be a new feature: The possibility of saving lists or your ratings (along with tags) to your PC, in a simplified form, for example as a PDF or something like that.

Even though this is a Listal update which marks a new era which will probably last for years, we should also be aware that no website lasts forever. It would be, in my mind, quite useful to at least have the possibility of saving the list information and your ratings in a very simplified form (no pictures and no descriptions, just the names of the list items and years and possibly your own tags) to your computer.

For example, I have a lot of information on different films on my favorite lists. If they would be lost some day it would be a great setback for my film hobby. That's why I'd like to have an easy way to just click and save these lists without having to print them.
Someone 11 years, 8 months ago at Aug 28 14:28 -
Please, please change the icon.

iceimg.com/i/99/b1/305749474c.png
This is too damn old and not apealing..
Fraterlucis 11 years, 8 months ago at Aug 28 15:17 -
I second Lamourderer's comment. Having a way to download lists, even just titles and ratings, would be a huge peace of mind.
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Tom 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 1 15:39 -
I have added a couple of updates recently:

1. I have added back the option to edit layout: www.betalistal.com/user/editlayout

2. I have also added the ability to choose which categories you see. This will be asked when you first login and can be later changed in the settings.

Will post updates to other issues people have mentioned soon.
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brazilfashion 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 3:20 -
Please don't merge the friends with following. Some people I really like and am friends with but I don't want to follow them because we are not always interested in the same stuff.

Some sort of social media function would be great though.
Maggie 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 3:51 -
Thank you for the changes you've made so far, Tom. I'm glad we can edit the profile again, and I like the idea of being able to filter categories.
Sweet Shark 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 11:01 -

I have another question please:

What will happen with the problem with if an item appear many times?
Is there a solution to this problem so we can see all the rating in one place?
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The O.P. 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 14:27 -
I love Category selection, but two questions.
Does it only affect promoted lists in Home page or some other areas on Listal too?
Besides, is select/deselect going to work with tablets? Haven't tried yet.
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Tom 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 16:14 -

Does it only affect promoted lists in Home page or some other areas on Listal too?
Besides, is select/deselect going to work with tablets? Haven't tried yet.


At the moment it only affects the homepage and the main lists page, I will be adding to this such as customizing the menus.

Which specific select/deselect are you referring to?



What will happen with the problem with if an item appear many times?
Is there a solution to this problem so we can see all the rating in one place?


Not sure what you mean by this, where are items appearing many times?

Please don't merge the friends with following. Some people I really like and am friends with but I don't want to follow them because we are not always interested in the same stuff.


I will probably keep friends but it will part of the follow button, there will be an option to request friend add.


iceimg.com/i/99/b1/305749474c.png
This is too damn old and not apealing..


I will try and come up with something better.

I second Lamourderer's comment. Having a way to download lists, even just titles and ratings, would be a huge peace of mind.


I will try and add this in the future

What will be the maximum possible width of a picture? Now only vertical pics have a good resolution, horizontal pics should be wider in resolution.


Not sure what you mean by this exactly?

With the current version of listal, pictures in image lists disappear when they are deleted and/or replaced by a better version. In big lists it's difficult to know what picture has dissapeared. It would be a very nice feature if the new better image will automatically replace the old picture. Is it possible to implement that?


I'm planning to upgrade the system so pictures won't disappear from lists if deleted by moderators unless they are breaking nudity rules etc.

The addition of Web Show category is nice. "watched wanted" buttons are too big. Can't rate webshow from it's page. Any chance you could put "sort by contact's ratings" back in Listal? Comics include webcomics and manga? Cause both are in "books" right now. There will be a section move widget?


I reduced the text from the wanted button so it isn't big any more. You will be able to request to change the category of an item. Comics will be any comic book series (paper or digital). Sort by contact's ratings - What did this feature do? Was it to sort custom lists?


When creating a list you can no longer chose the primary picture of the first item as the list image, when you have used other pictures in the notes.

This is annoying for lists like this where the pictures in the notes are only illustrative of one feature (country flag), but the primary picture of an item (mountain) would be a much more representative image for the list.


I will fix this

Are we going to get a multi upload?


Hopefully soon.

I think the places category still needs some changes.
Currently you can only add title, description and release date.
While I don't think that "release date" is really a useful feature for a place, I think that adding a type would be a good idea (shop, restaurant, mountain, planet, etc.)


I've removed the release date field, each category will get more specific editable fields in the future.
Sweet Shark 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 20:18 -
@Tom

I mean when you search for an specific Item and you see it multiple times.
A good example is a game like Septerra Core:

www.listal.com/game/septerra-core-pc
www.listal.com/game/septerra-core-legacy-creator-pc
www.listal.com/game/septerra-core-pc-45087

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The O.P. 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 2 22:59 -
Which specific select/deselect are you referring to?


I was referring to the "Category selection" buttons with a green frame when they are selected, and no frame when deselected.

Anyway, I've just tried on an Android tablet with Boat browser, and they work fine there too. :)
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Deleted 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 3 20:25 -
Muy buenos los cambios, creo que deberían de hacer los mismo con los encargados de censurar este sitio. Lo ideal seria cambiar esas niñas y poner a personas con mas seriedad e imparcialidad.

Saludos.
luuhs 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 4 20:39 -
Just a quick question, don't know if has been answered before, so,if it has, then I'm sorry.

I've seen that you've put somewhere that some of our newest contests still don't show around there, and my question is: will they also be updated with time or should we refrain from adding those until the change so we can upload there directly?

Thanks for your attention!
TrekMedic 11 years, 8 months ago at Sep 5 22:43 -
With the current version of listal, pictures in image lists disappear when they are deleted and/or replaced by a better version. In big lists it's difficult to know what picture has dissapeared. It would be a very nice feature if the new better image will automatically replace the old picture. Is it possible to implement that?


I'm planning to upgrade the system so pictures won't disappear from lists if deleted by moderators unless they are breaking nudity rules etc.


I'd love to see that! I spent weeks earlier this year cleaning up the deleted images in my lists!

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