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Bael
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 23 10:02 - in many discussions with people i realize that i have rooted for all my life, from childhood on, for the bad guys. be it in books, movies or video games. they almost always looked and were cooler, were stronger and were generally more complex than most "heroes". whenever i had the option to play an evil character or campaign in a video game, i chose it without even trying the "good" character or campaign (in MMORPGs i never created one "good" character, even after years of playing). whenever i watched a climatic battle between the main villian and the hero in a movie i would secretly hope the hero gets impaled/incinerated/molten in the end ;). but of course, thank you Hollywood and mainstream authors, some deus ex machina would alway save the wimpy hero in the last second out of thin air.
it is a pity Listal doesn't have a poll option, but i'd really like to know if you have a similar point of view or if you are the type who identifies more with the shining hero who smites evil at every footstep ;). or are you in between and choose at random?
it is a pity Listal doesn't have a poll option, but i'd really like to know if you have a similar point of view or if you are the type who identifies more with the shining hero who smites evil at every footstep ;). or are you in between and choose at random?
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17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 23 10:23 - I think I'm almost always the opposite. Being good when I have the opportunity to be one or the other always seems the most natural to me. I was playing Fallout 3 recently and you have the option to be a totally heartless criminal or a saintly paladin and whilst I stole the odd item I shouldn't have or killed the odd good guy, I was mostly always drawn to the good option.
The best evil character I've seen in films in a long time is Javier Bardem's character in No Country for Old Men. He was utterly chilling, so much so that I just couldn't root for him.
Then again, the heroes I grew up on were anything but wimpy and they usually took the form of former Mr Olympias!
The best evil character I've seen in films in a long time is Javier Bardem's character in No Country for Old Men. He was utterly chilling, so much so that I just couldn't root for him.
Then again, the heroes I grew up on were anything but wimpy and they usually took the form of former Mr Olympias!
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VIP Bael
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 23 11:35 - yeah great, i really missed how you proficiently destroy Listal's layout! *thumbsup*
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Prelude
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 23 13:02 - his new account is blocked too, and layout is back and restored. carry on, guys.
Devious Phenomenon
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 24 16:11 - I kind of agree, I'm sorta inbetween, but leaning VERY far towards the Villain,
you're right, the villains are always more complex in just about anything, I always hated how everyshow follows the same plot, never once trying anything new...
Why can't the hero ever lose? I mean, if they want the good side to win, have the hero die and have a new hero come for vengeance or something, I hate how it's always Hero Vs. Villain, the villain toys with them, obviously lightyears past the experience of the hero, and then leaves him in a defeated heap, next fight the hero gets his ass kicked at first and then suddenly, out of nowhere he's stronger then the villain... why? it just seems stupid to me...
Or perhaps even make it so that the main villain is replaced by a new villain and the main villain teams with the hero for a bit? Idc, I just want to see one where a villain plays a better role then what they are stuck with in mainstream crap...
The people who make shows and stuff DO realize that sticking to the same thing, eventually it'll get old, and since they aren't experimenting now, they won't know what to throw next?
Or am I one of the few who feels that way?
you're right, the villains are always more complex in just about anything, I always hated how everyshow follows the same plot, never once trying anything new...
Why can't the hero ever lose? I mean, if they want the good side to win, have the hero die and have a new hero come for vengeance or something, I hate how it's always Hero Vs. Villain, the villain toys with them, obviously lightyears past the experience of the hero, and then leaves him in a defeated heap, next fight the hero gets his ass kicked at first and then suddenly, out of nowhere he's stronger then the villain... why? it just seems stupid to me...
Or perhaps even make it so that the main villain is replaced by a new villain and the main villain teams with the hero for a bit? Idc, I just want to see one where a villain plays a better role then what they are stuck with in mainstream crap...
The people who make shows and stuff DO realize that sticking to the same thing, eventually it'll get old, and since they aren't experimenting now, they won't know what to throw next?
Or am I one of the few who feels that way?
tad
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 25 20:33 - I'm a good guy at heart, so it'll be up to me and Grand Assault to stop you Bael! I like it when the good guys do everything that they're meant to but still ultimately 'get it' so they've saved the day and everything is good, but then the villain has the last laugh.
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GemLil
17 years, 6 months ago at Jan 25 23:41 - I am inclined to good too. I always try to avoid friendly fire as well, In games like GTA and The Godfather, I get really chocked when I run over a civilian. In rts games too, I always make sure if I kill a cow or a deer, I get every last bit of meat out of it before I move on...that animal will not have died in vain!
William
17 years, 5 months ago at Jan 29 18:12 - if i could have a choice in the matter.... honestly, i'd be the dark hero. you know, like riku in kingdom hearts.
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CRT
17 years, 5 months ago at Jan 30 18:09 - I always root for the good guys in film/tv. I also always end up playing for the side of good in video games that give you that option.
What makes for great heroes however, is the realism that comes with heroes that are not full on good with no realistic dark side. Nothing's fun about a hero like "Golden Era" Superman that's all mom, apple pie, and lollipops. The best heroes (not necessarily anti-heroes, either) have a bit of a dark streak or possess qualities that make you question their motives.
What makes for great heroes however, is the realism that comes with heroes that are not full on good with no realistic dark side. Nothing's fun about a hero like "Golden Era" Superman that's all mom, apple pie, and lollipops. The best heroes (not necessarily anti-heroes, either) have a bit of a dark streak or possess qualities that make you question their motives.
CiciCutiePieX3
17 years, 4 months ago at Mar 12 23:56 - U ppl are mean!
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17 years, 4 months ago at Mar 13 1:56 - I'd like to think I'd always side with the good, but there are the times when those sinister thoughts and evil plots appear out of nowhere and get me to thinking about how different things would be if I did this instead of this.
On the inside, though, at the very core, I am good. I'd fight for what is right, and I'm hardly ever the bad guy when I play video games or role play.
There is something fulfilling about seeing a hero/heroine on the brink of destruction only to see them triumph when all odds are stacked against them. All hope is lost, and then BAM! Their minds race as the adrenaline surges through their veins and they win.
An excellent villain is key to any hero/heroine's story. Without that important ingredient, there is no story. More than one bad guy would make it interesting, especially, as Devious pointed out, if the hero/heroine had to team up with the main villain to overcome this new threat. After that is said and done, the main villain turns on the hero/heroine and the fight continues.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, isn't very intelligent, or if I repeated something that was already said.
I'm kind of tired...
On the inside, though, at the very core, I am good. I'd fight for what is right, and I'm hardly ever the bad guy when I play video games or role play.
There is something fulfilling about seeing a hero/heroine on the brink of destruction only to see them triumph when all odds are stacked against them. All hope is lost, and then BAM! Their minds race as the adrenaline surges through their veins and they win.
An excellent villain is key to any hero/heroine's story. Without that important ingredient, there is no story. More than one bad guy would make it interesting, especially, as Devious pointed out, if the hero/heroine had to team up with the main villain to overcome this new threat. After that is said and done, the main villain turns on the hero/heroine and the fight continues.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, isn't very intelligent, or if I repeated something that was already said.
I'm kind of tired...
Devious Phenomenon
17 years, 4 months ago at Mar 13 22:06 - Fox, would you fight for what's right for you, or for the majority?
That's one reason why heroes and villains are hard to be judged, do all rights make a hero? So if they believe they have the right to rule, they're a hero? it depends on everything, you can't honestly be 100% of something
And yes Fox, a perfect example of what I WISH had happened is from Bleach, I kinda got connected to Grimmjow, he was the only character that seemed reealistic, he had flaws, I would have loved to see him defeated,live, team with Ichigo on Ulgoirra, and vow that one day he'll destroy Ichigo for the little runt he is :P
Charming huh?
That's one reason why heroes and villains are hard to be judged, do all rights make a hero? So if they believe they have the right to rule, they're a hero? it depends on everything, you can't honestly be 100% of something
And yes Fox, a perfect example of what I WISH had happened is from Bleach, I kinda got connected to Grimmjow, he was the only character that seemed reealistic, he had flaws, I would have loved to see him defeated,live, team with Ichigo on Ulgoirra, and vow that one day he'll destroy Ichigo for the little runt he is :P
Charming huh?
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17 years, 4 months ago at Mar 14 19:45 - A little bit of both. Something that I see occurring often is that the heroine has to kill the man she loves to save others. Kill one, save millions. I know I couldn't do that. All those people would die. Of course, I'd blame myself for all those deaths, since I couldn't do that one thing to stop it.
Even if it wasn't the guy I loved, just an ordinary guy, could I do it? Doesn't that person have as much right to live as all the others? I'd be a hypocrite if I killed him, wouldn't I?
It would be different if it had been someone who harmed my family, friends, or the one I loved on purpose; if it was an accident, I'd let it go. That person would die, no matter what it took, no matter what happened to me.
Would that make me evil?
Grimmjow is an excellent example, and that's what I was hoping would happen.
Even if it wasn't the guy I loved, just an ordinary guy, could I do it? Doesn't that person have as much right to live as all the others? I'd be a hypocrite if I killed him, wouldn't I?
It would be different if it had been someone who harmed my family, friends, or the one I loved on purpose; if it was an accident, I'd let it go. That person would die, no matter what it took, no matter what happened to me.
Would that make me evil?
Grimmjow is an excellent example, and that's what I was hoping would happen.
PB&J
17 years, 4 months ago at Mar 15 12:30 - The best thing about bad guys is that they're usually smarter than the good guys. Because they use the good guys' weaknesses as an advantage, but it sucks how they lose in the end. They also keep the movie/ game/ show interesting.
Good guys however somehow make the game, movie or show fun. Don't know how but they keep me interested. But I like playing the bad guy in games because it's something different, and different is definitely fun.
Good guys however somehow make the game, movie or show fun. Don't know how but they keep me interested. But I like playing the bad guy in games because it's something different, and different is definitely fun.