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"carryonbuff", I doubt...

Muhammad Majdy 13 years ago at Apr 26 12:10 -
I find this member in almost every celebrity I visited in this site.

I said maybe, but when I found Him in Arabian Actors even if they don't have a picture, I must have some ideas about him.

I'm also sure that 82578 people is too over.

What You See?
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Deleted 13 years ago at Apr 26 15:17 -
He rates everything, from unreleased movies to unknown arabian actors. This guy is a fucking rating machine, unfortunately nobody cares, everybody is kissing his ass, praising him, like he's some sort of God here.
Muhammad Majdy 13 years ago at Apr 26 16:11 -
@Mauro

Thanks for your view, I agree.
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brazilfashion 13 years ago at Apr 27 0:14 -
Carryonbuff, you're a really nice guy, but I have to agree that if you or anyone is going around rating every single thing on Listal, it is probably spamming. Unless of course, you have really seen all these unreleased movies and are actually familiar with all the obscure actors you vote for. In that case it wouldn't be spamming.
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Deleted 13 years ago at Apr 27 20:22 -
I'm not sure that the forums is a place to go to directly shit on other members. But that being said I have no problems with carryonbuff because without him there would only be a sea images and lists about sluts and no hunky half naked men to balance it out. I also don't know why anyone cares about what someone else is rating.

There are far worse problems on this site other than someone rating a lot of things. And I don't know what you expect Tom or anyone else to do about it. What's supposed to happen? He's not allowed to rate any more because people don't like it? You can't prove that he doesn't know the of people and movies he rates. You just can't prove it. So how about some suggestions about what to do about it rather than calling someone else out on a public forum and bitching about it?

Unreleased movies are different. Something WAS done about that in the past, but it got changed back to the way it was again for reasons I don't fully understand. No one should be able to rate an unreleased movie, but for some reason users had a problem with preventing ratings because of release dates in different countries. Now anyone can rate anything they want.
SɦαŁ 13 years ago at Apr 27 20:41 -
Personally I have no problem with anybody, but as you say Vergil x Dante there is " half naked men " thanks to him, but I can't understand why when it's some half naked women it's not allowed on the site and when it's half naked men it's a must see. I mean some pictures are deleted and there is a mature content filter for women, but when it's some men from gay porn in some suggestive positions I have the feeling that there is no filter.

I don't know if someone have already talking about it, or if I'm wrong, but that is in my mind since few weeks.
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Deleted 13 years ago at Apr 27 20:41 -
I agree that:

1) Voting on unreleased movies is suspicious,
And 2) you don't need to target other users on the forums. Feel free to send messages to them if you want clarification on their behavior, or report them if they've done something against the rules.
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Deleted 13 years ago at Apr 27 21:06 -
Yeah, but his ratings are not not the only problem. He also makes hundreds of lists, like "the great bla bla bla", useless in my opinion, we got IMDb for that, promoting every single one of them by voting with his fake accounts (over 10).
The funny thing is that he also post comments with them on his lists, trying to look legit, rofl. It's obvious that his aim is to be no.1 here by any means... so it's there a prize or something for no.1? or wtf is wrong with some people?

@Pumpkinate btw, I sent him a message once and he replied me back with one of his fake accounts (Captain Fantastic), u got proof on my profile.
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jaytoast 13 years ago at Apr 27 21:54 -
If you believe that an account is fake. The best thing to do is report it to Tom via message and let him investigate the matter.

That is what I did when I suspected a member of creating fake accounts to vote for themselves. Tom did delete the fake accounts.
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Deleted 13 years ago at Apr 28 0:21 -
@SɦαŁ - I don't agree at all that NAKED pictures should left alone, if there is a picture of a man that has his bare butt out or his penis then it gets deleted. What I mean by half-naked is hot shirtless guys, that's all. And surely you aren't suggesting that showing a topless man is the same as showing a topless woman's breasts. Because it's not. That's all I meant, I wasn't implying that naked men should be allowed to stay on the site. In any case though, there's not much nudity of men deleted because there's hardly any of it. If the disrespect of men was as bad as the disrespect of women on here, believe me, I would have a problem with it.

As for his lists being useless, that's in the eye of the beholder. Need I remind you that you're on a site where the primary function/idea is to make lists? Personally I think the "hot pornstars" and "big boobs" lists are useless, not lists about male models. Like I said, I think it's a good thing it's not all women all the time.

As for fake accounts, that's something Tom would have to prove by checking if the IP addresses for all the accounts are the same. Until it's proven it's just an accusation. As far as I know carryonbuff isn't hurting anyone or creating any drama.

But like I said, the forums is not a place to run someone else down. You should keep it between you two or bring up your concerns with Tom.
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brazilfashion 13 years ago at Apr 28 3:12 -
^ I think the more general issue raised in this thread about ratings does merit discussion. Maybe I should start a new thread though (?) For now I'll just post here...

I understand why rating items, such as unreleased or unwatched movies is a problem because the ratings are supposed to be a culmination of Listal users' (who have seen the film) opinions on the film, and if everyone were just to rate every single profile on listal for points or for fun or whatever reason, regardless of whether or no they have seen the movie or are familiar with the person of the profile, that would completely screw up the value of the ratings. On occasion I do look at the listal and IMDB ratings of a film to help me decide whether or not a certain film is worth watching.

I could go around rating every single possible profile on listal, but how would that contribute to anything. Does anyone care what I would rate some 1930s actress I know absolutely nothing about? I think not. And I don't think the users that follow that actresses profile would want me contributing some useless rating to the profile.

Off course, I don't know what films anyone else but me has seen or what celebrities/authors/directors/athletes any other user but me is familiar with. So, true, who I am I to question anyone.

But I would like to believe that when I look at a listal rating, I am seeing the actual average of ratings from people who know enough about that profile to judge/rate it. And if you are actually familiar enough with 100,000+ profiles on listal to give a sincere rating, then go ahead and rate them. But if any user were to just rate profiles they know nothing about in order to get points, I would consider that spamming.

I can only hope the rest of the community shares these values.

On the other hand, I agree that there are far worse problems on this site...


SɦαŁ 13 years ago at Apr 28 8:37 -
@Vergil x Dante, well I thank you for answering me. I though we were talking about the same thing, but as you say it's clearly not. ^^
I hope we can have a discussion, because here it's not the place.
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