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The O.P.
8 years, 11 months ago at May 19 13:15 - This is still a great web site, and it's getting new features thanks to Tom's work, and it's free! We can just say thank you for all that.
On the other hand, I am a bit concerned. It feels like all the huge potential is somewhat wasted due to some unsolved issues. Despite of better features (like the new mobile version you can try on betalistal.com), I see less forum and list activity, less enthusiasm, fewer users, even fewer moderators willing to help and keep the site clean.
I don't exactly know what the causes of Listal apparent "decline" are, but I can point out a few of the issues that might explain it, partly at least.
1. The site is still sluggish at times. When you start thinking "I'll go and drink a glass of water while the page loads", that's no super-fast!
2. Serious bugs take forever to be fixed. Take, for instance, the broken pics. Seems fixed now (EDIT: I spoke too soon!), but it took three months or so. How many users left in the meantime, because Listal images were not loading?
3. Spam friendly? There are still no strong safeguards to prevent spammers from doing their spam, apart from catching them one by one after they have done damages. And then they can easily start again with a new account. Personally, I used to have email notifications for list comments, but had to turn it off because spammers' "comments" (job sites, etc.) were notified too. Most annoying.
4. While the new Listal features deserve kudos, some basic features are still missing after a long time. For instance, you can not subscribe to a forum thread and be notified of replies. That's just an example, but there are so many other ideas waiting in Listal Suggestions.
5. As a member of the moderation team, let me add something we already discussed on the Mod forum. Some users complain "why did you mods delete my pic, but left 1,000 similar other ones"? The simple truth is that finding and removing all the images against Listal rules takes time and effort, so we just can't delete everything. For instance, hundreds of porn star profiles are never going to be cleaned up, because it would take ages! In brief, we need some more powerful tools for moderation too, like check boxes for multiple select.
Just my 2 cents.
On the other hand, I am a bit concerned. It feels like all the huge potential is somewhat wasted due to some unsolved issues. Despite of better features (like the new mobile version you can try on betalistal.com), I see less forum and list activity, less enthusiasm, fewer users, even fewer moderators willing to help and keep the site clean.
I don't exactly know what the causes of Listal apparent "decline" are, but I can point out a few of the issues that might explain it, partly at least.
1. The site is still sluggish at times. When you start thinking "I'll go and drink a glass of water while the page loads", that's no super-fast!
2. Serious bugs take forever to be fixed. Take, for instance, the broken pics. Seems fixed now (EDIT: I spoke too soon!), but it took three months or so. How many users left in the meantime, because Listal images were not loading?
3. Spam friendly? There are still no strong safeguards to prevent spammers from doing their spam, apart from catching them one by one after they have done damages. And then they can easily start again with a new account. Personally, I used to have email notifications for list comments, but had to turn it off because spammers' "comments" (job sites, etc.) were notified too. Most annoying.
4. While the new Listal features deserve kudos, some basic features are still missing after a long time. For instance, you can not subscribe to a forum thread and be notified of replies. That's just an example, but there are so many other ideas waiting in Listal Suggestions.
5. As a member of the moderation team, let me add something we already discussed on the Mod forum. Some users complain "why did you mods delete my pic, but left 1,000 similar other ones"? The simple truth is that finding and removing all the images against Listal rules takes time and effort, so we just can't delete everything. For instance, hundreds of porn star profiles are never going to be cleaned up, because it would take ages! In brief, we need some more powerful tools for moderation too, like check boxes for multiple select.
Just my 2 cents.
DuckNation
8 years, 11 months ago at May 19 13:47 - All good points O.P.
Ive always wondered how many MODS were on this site it never seemed like there was that many to begin with.
Number 5 is what it is
I don't even care if a pic gets deleted anymore i just take it in stride and learn what not to post
But you know something that can help with the Porn star pics/etc. adding more mods could help not that many maybe like 5 more at the max. just a suggestion
Ive always wondered how many MODS were on this site it never seemed like there was that many to begin with.
Number 5 is what it is
I don't even care if a pic gets deleted anymore i just take it in stride and learn what not to post
But you know something that can help with the Porn star pics/etc. adding more mods could help not that many maybe like 5 more at the max. just a suggestion
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8 years, 11 months ago at May 19 15:31 - I agree heavily with no strong safeguards to prevent spammers from doing their spam. In my opinion it is the worst problem on the site.
Moderator The O.P.
8 years, 11 months ago at May 20 15:53 - I hope the mobile version is going to give a boost to the site, as more and more people surf the net on smartphones and tablets rather than PCs.
However, apart from the issues I was talking about, I guess there is something else that Listal maybe lacks in comparison to some new "social" web sites that are having a favorable outcome nowadays. Again, I don't know the secret formula for success, I am just thinking aloud and I might well be wrong, but maybe Listal should be "streamlined". By that I mean: focusing on the essentials and giving the user simpler yet more powerful features. For instance, think of the Home Page now: it is cluttered with windows (promoted lists, notifications, updates, even a "New People" window somewhere down in the bottom area of the page) and in each window there are many things (Updates are pics, new lists, votes, reviews...). But you can't check your Friends' promoted lists, for instance, or "share" something with your Listal Friends. And then, everything on the Home Page is just a title or a thumbnail. When you want to "check out" one of the so many things, you have to leave the "Home page" experience. As opposed to Twitter web, for instance, where you can see new tweets and images etc. without leaving the page, and when you click on an image you see it in a new window but you get back to the main page when you close the image window.
Just a thought.
However, apart from the issues I was talking about, I guess there is something else that Listal maybe lacks in comparison to some new "social" web sites that are having a favorable outcome nowadays. Again, I don't know the secret formula for success, I am just thinking aloud and I might well be wrong, but maybe Listal should be "streamlined". By that I mean: focusing on the essentials and giving the user simpler yet more powerful features. For instance, think of the Home Page now: it is cluttered with windows (promoted lists, notifications, updates, even a "New People" window somewhere down in the bottom area of the page) and in each window there are many things (Updates are pics, new lists, votes, reviews...). But you can't check your Friends' promoted lists, for instance, or "share" something with your Listal Friends. And then, everything on the Home Page is just a title or a thumbnail. When you want to "check out" one of the so many things, you have to leave the "Home page" experience. As opposed to Twitter web, for instance, where you can see new tweets and images etc. without leaving the page, and when you click on an image you see it in a new window but you get back to the main page when you close the image window.
Just a thought.
mrhoundoom
8 years, 11 months ago at May 20 21:18 - i think a major reason has to why the site is not reaching its full potential, other than the wesite needing a few tweaks here and there, is mostly because of the majority of users of the site, don´t get me wrong i am not saying that they are bad people at all quite the contrary, but the overall community, with a few exceptions, just isn´t vocal enough, everyone just does their thing and there is not much socializing per se, theres not a whole lot of feedback when you make a list, i mean i appreciate votes but sometimes i like more vocal feedback, the forums are preety much empty of discussion nowadays aswell.
In my opinion what i look in wesites like these is exactly that, a sense of being part of a small community, just making fun lists and looking to know what people think of them, and listal doesn´t have a whole lot of that going on, but i guess with the mobile version like @The O.P said the site gets more traffic, and more traffic means more people and from that point on i think you can figure out, and hopefully at that point the site can reach its real potential, because lets be honest here, its already probably hard to keep a website like this up by itself, if theres not a lot of "movement" going in, its hard to get the motivation to work even harder on it and make it better.
P.S: apparently im lucky, because i dont really "suffer" from spam problems
In my opinion what i look in wesites like these is exactly that, a sense of being part of a small community, just making fun lists and looking to know what people think of them, and listal doesn´t have a whole lot of that going on, but i guess with the mobile version like @The O.P said the site gets more traffic, and more traffic means more people and from that point on i think you can figure out, and hopefully at that point the site can reach its real potential, because lets be honest here, its already probably hard to keep a website like this up by itself, if theres not a lot of "movement" going in, its hard to get the motivation to work even harder on it and make it better.
P.S: apparently im lucky, because i dont really "suffer" from spam problems
Moderator Admin
Tom
8 years, 11 months ago at May 20 21:21 - 1. The site is still sluggish at times. When you start thinking "I'll go and drink a glass of water while the page loads", that's no super-fast!
Unfortunately there is no easy fix for this as it could be caused by hundreds of different things. I have fixed a number of things that could cause slowdowns but still many problems remain which need extensive time to analyze and fix.
2. Serious bugs take forever to be fixed. Take, for instance, the broken pics. Seems fixed now, but it took three months or so. How many users left in the meantime, because Listal images were not loading?
This is not really a bug but caused by servers crashing for sometimes no obvious reason. One of the main image server recently had it's ram changed and I think bad ram may have been the main reason for most the crashes in the past.
3. Spam friendly? There are still no strong safeguards to prevent spammers from doing their spam, apart from catching them one by one after they have done damages. And then they can easily start again with a new account. Personally, I used to have email notifications for list comments, but had to turn it off because spammers' "comments" (job sites, etc.) were notified too. Most annoying.
I want to try and improve this after the new site is released
As far as new features, there are also hundreds of things I want to add but with adding new features there is the potential for making the site even more complicated and introducing more bugs and code to maintain so they need to be considered and prioritized very carefully. Many features I have added in the past haven't been used, for example there used to be a 'recommend a movie/book etc to a friend' but this was rarely used.
Moderator The O.P.
8 years, 11 months ago at May 21 11:01 - Thanks for the replies!
@Tom
Agree that adding too many new features is not a good thing if it makes the site complicated. See my second post about "streamlining", by which I mean making the site more straightforward to use and more focused on the essentials. However, subscribing to a forum topic is a basic feature that you can find in almost any forums.
@mrhoundoom
You nailed it: everyone makes their own thing, but it doesn't feel like a community. Maybe some "Listal social tools" might help? For instance, now you can "share" something with Facebook and Twitter and dozens of other services, yet not with your Listal Friends, so befriending someone just sums up to adding him or her to a list, and that's it.
p.s. Some of the spam you don't see it, say on the forums, 'cause it gets deleted by mods :)
@Tom
Agree that adding too many new features is not a good thing if it makes the site complicated. See my second post about "streamlining", by which I mean making the site more straightforward to use and more focused on the essentials. However, subscribing to a forum topic is a basic feature that you can find in almost any forums.
@mrhoundoom
You nailed it: everyone makes their own thing, but it doesn't feel like a community. Maybe some "Listal social tools" might help? For instance, now you can "share" something with Facebook and Twitter and dozens of other services, yet not with your Listal Friends, so befriending someone just sums up to adding him or her to a list, and that's it.
p.s. Some of the spam you don't see it, say on the forums, 'cause it gets deleted by mods :)
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8 years, 11 months ago at May 23 17:24 - Just my two cents:
1. I haven't been using Listal more because the other users don't post interesting content, plain and simple. The interesting lists get lost in the amount of not interesting stuff. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one. I don't think that removing some good features helps but the possibility to just focus on those whom you are following so you'll see _only_ their actions on the front page would be a welcome addition.
The site gives the user the ability to block some categories out of the newsfeed but that doesn't help when the front page is still filled with kazillion "in the footsteps of..." -styled lists or some lists that are basically beauty lists that focus on images even though the items in the list are movies or books or other stuff.
It would also be nice to chat with friends in an easier way than with mail or a list or profile comment box or at least change the place of the list comment boxes to the right side of the lists or something. Now the comment box is below all the list content, so you have to scroll all the way down there because usually lists are huge: that doesn't help being active, especially when using mobile. Also: lists with many pages are a pain in the ass to scroll through because you can't jump easily to the page you want to.
2. The site is ugly, no way around it. Facebook is ugly too though, but at least it's simple and ugly. The new Listal beta is better but it's not a beauty either. What other list sites have is that they're more simple-looking and that's why they're prettier and nicer to use. I appreciate Tom's efforts, I really do, but if possible I'd recommend hiring someone who can design the site to look aesthetically good and simple without losing the old key functions (i.e. without removing ratings and destroying the lists).
3. Personally I think the site is trying too much. It should focus more on a smaller audience or at least give people a clearer possibility to create their own smaller communities inside the site where they can focus on different stuff. Something for everybody is nothing for anyone.
I admit I'm conservative in this sense but I'd cut out everything except the essentials (books, music, TV, films, games, perhaps food since it's so popular).
Also: The people who like to post "beauty" lists sometimes don't just care and do film lists which are basically beauty lists all the same and get spammed in the front page. When I'm following a movie category I'd expect to get at least in some way a movie-related content instead of just pictures of stars in various poses or this "in the footsteps of..." bullshit.
Users that post stuff related to beauty lists are probably the ones that are most active on this site, but their pictures and images are voted en masse and it has made Listal partially a soft-core porn site which, truth be told, isn't very inviting for any new user who'd like to really share some meaningful content. I've also heard from many users that have been active before that the site lost what was good about it when it started to change from a popular culture site to soft-core site. In other words, the site is getting dumbed down as a whole. This isn't a problem in other social media sites like Tumblr or Twitter or Facebook, because you can have more options to choose what you want to see and what you don't. Here it isn't that simple.
If you want more actual activity and interesting content, the only way is in my opinion to focus on a smaller group of people who are more active and have something to say instead of trying to please everyone – or, at least, it would be nice to help people get more easily the content they want by giving them more choices, like just being able to see the content from those whom they are following and no-one else. Listal is never going to be this huge community, so it's better if it is at least a big amount of smaller communities that are active.
I'm not trying to insult, for example, people who post beauty lists and pictures of supermodels and pornstars. They have their own thing and that's fine, but I seriously think that for them a whole separate sister site or a more clearly separate section on the upcoming beta site would be great.
4. Give more bans to people who disturb others and secure the site better so it won't get so much spam. There should be more and better weapons for moderators.
Edit. Perhaps you should also clean the forums from all the old topics and make them more user-friendly? Now they look kind of... clunky and finding useful content is impossible. Even a phpBB-styled forum with a separate registration and good moderation would be a step up in my opinion. Also in the future it would be great if topics that are useless would be just deleted.
Edit 2. I'm repeating myself, but I'd also remove the point system altogether. No other social media site has something like this and that's why they have more meaningful content: the contents of the site should be a reason enough for the users to use the site and the contributed lists would really be better if the list makers would create them (and people would vote them) for what they contain and not for points. It would probably lessen the amount of users with uninviting lists and lists with empty content, if there would be no points given.
1. I haven't been using Listal more because the other users don't post interesting content, plain and simple. The interesting lists get lost in the amount of not interesting stuff. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one. I don't think that removing some good features helps but the possibility to just focus on those whom you are following so you'll see _only_ their actions on the front page would be a welcome addition.
The site gives the user the ability to block some categories out of the newsfeed but that doesn't help when the front page is still filled with kazillion "in the footsteps of..." -styled lists or some lists that are basically beauty lists that focus on images even though the items in the list are movies or books or other stuff.
It would also be nice to chat with friends in an easier way than with mail or a list or profile comment box or at least change the place of the list comment boxes to the right side of the lists or something. Now the comment box is below all the list content, so you have to scroll all the way down there because usually lists are huge: that doesn't help being active, especially when using mobile. Also: lists with many pages are a pain in the ass to scroll through because you can't jump easily to the page you want to.
2. The site is ugly, no way around it. Facebook is ugly too though, but at least it's simple and ugly. The new Listal beta is better but it's not a beauty either. What other list sites have is that they're more simple-looking and that's why they're prettier and nicer to use. I appreciate Tom's efforts, I really do, but if possible I'd recommend hiring someone who can design the site to look aesthetically good and simple without losing the old key functions (i.e. without removing ratings and destroying the lists).
3. Personally I think the site is trying too much. It should focus more on a smaller audience or at least give people a clearer possibility to create their own smaller communities inside the site where they can focus on different stuff. Something for everybody is nothing for anyone.
I admit I'm conservative in this sense but I'd cut out everything except the essentials (books, music, TV, films, games, perhaps food since it's so popular).
Also: The people who like to post "beauty" lists sometimes don't just care and do film lists which are basically beauty lists all the same and get spammed in the front page. When I'm following a movie category I'd expect to get at least in some way a movie-related content instead of just pictures of stars in various poses or this "in the footsteps of..." bullshit.
Users that post stuff related to beauty lists are probably the ones that are most active on this site, but their pictures and images are voted en masse and it has made Listal partially a soft-core porn site which, truth be told, isn't very inviting for any new user who'd like to really share some meaningful content. I've also heard from many users that have been active before that the site lost what was good about it when it started to change from a popular culture site to soft-core site. In other words, the site is getting dumbed down as a whole. This isn't a problem in other social media sites like Tumblr or Twitter or Facebook, because you can have more options to choose what you want to see and what you don't. Here it isn't that simple.
If you want more actual activity and interesting content, the only way is in my opinion to focus on a smaller group of people who are more active and have something to say instead of trying to please everyone – or, at least, it would be nice to help people get more easily the content they want by giving them more choices, like just being able to see the content from those whom they are following and no-one else. Listal is never going to be this huge community, so it's better if it is at least a big amount of smaller communities that are active.
I'm not trying to insult, for example, people who post beauty lists and pictures of supermodels and pornstars. They have their own thing and that's fine, but I seriously think that for them a whole separate sister site or a more clearly separate section on the upcoming beta site would be great.
4. Give more bans to people who disturb others and secure the site better so it won't get so much spam. There should be more and better weapons for moderators.
Edit. Perhaps you should also clean the forums from all the old topics and make them more user-friendly? Now they look kind of... clunky and finding useful content is impossible. Even a phpBB-styled forum with a separate registration and good moderation would be a step up in my opinion. Also in the future it would be great if topics that are useless would be just deleted.
Edit 2. I'm repeating myself, but I'd also remove the point system altogether. No other social media site has something like this and that's why they have more meaningful content: the contents of the site should be a reason enough for the users to use the site and the contributed lists would really be better if the list makers would create them (and people would vote them) for what they contain and not for points. It would probably lessen the amount of users with uninviting lists and lists with empty content, if there would be no points given.
Moderator The O.P.
8 years, 11 months ago at May 25 17:31 - @Lamourderer
True. Of course the definition of "interesting" is highly subjective, for instance I happen to like the "In the footsteps..." series which you took as a negative example, but the point you make still holds. There should be a way for a user to see a Listal home page with their favorite content, not any promoted lists. Category selection was a first step, but some fine tuning would help.
Again, let's think of the popular social networks like Twitter or Facebook, where you only see what really matters for you in your home stream.
Agreed! The site is not "social" as it should be. For instance, let's say I left a comment to a list (or to a picture, or to a review, or on a user profile...). Then, I would like to be notified if someone replied to my comment (mentioning my nick, to make it clear it was a reply to me).
Sometimes I might also want to share/notify my comment to my Listal Friends, and they might want to check out what I wrote and add their own comment after mine.
Or, I would like to "subscribe to" a list (or to a movie page, etc.) so that I am notified of all the new activity on that page! That would also sort of define "small communities", like you say. Users who are interested in Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai", say, would subscribe to that page and be notified when a new review or picture or video get added, or the info on the page has been edited, or there are new ratings. How would you like that?
The new beta version is better looking, like you noticed yourself :)
Right. Too many things on the same page, and users won't even notice all the courses of the rich menu they can have!
For instance, the "New People" section is somehow hidden in the bottom area of the Home Page. Or you remove it altogether, or you put it in a place where it can be seen (say, as an item in the "Social" menu).
That's it. Again, let me talk about Twitter, which I use and know a bit. On Twitter there are so many different things, from music fans to political discussions, from media and television to chats with friends about what you had for dinner!, but the Twitter page you see is made with the content that are relevant to you, not all the rest. You are readily notified of all interactions you care about, while you can almost completely ignore whatever you are not interested in.
The interesting lists get lost in the amount of not interesting stuff...
True. Of course the definition of "interesting" is highly subjective, for instance I happen to like the "In the footsteps..." series which you took as a negative example, but the point you make still holds. There should be a way for a user to see a Listal home page with their favorite content, not any promoted lists. Category selection was a first step, but some fine tuning would help.
Again, let's think of the popular social networks like Twitter or Facebook, where you only see what really matters for you in your home stream.
It would also be nice to chat with friends in an easier way than with mail or a list or profile comment box...
Agreed! The site is not "social" as it should be. For instance, let's say I left a comment to a list (or to a picture, or to a review, or on a user profile...). Then, I would like to be notified if someone replied to my comment (mentioning my nick, to make it clear it was a reply to me).
Sometimes I might also want to share/notify my comment to my Listal Friends, and they might want to check out what I wrote and add their own comment after mine.
Or, I would like to "subscribe to" a list (or to a movie page, etc.) so that I am notified of all the new activity on that page! That would also sort of define "small communities", like you say. Users who are interested in Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai", say, would subscribe to that page and be notified when a new review or picture or video get added, or the info on the page has been edited, or there are new ratings. How would you like that?
The site is ugly, no way around it. ...
The new beta version is better looking, like you noticed yourself :)
What other list sites have is that they're more simple-looking...
Right. Too many things on the same page, and users won't even notice all the courses of the rich menu they can have!
For instance, the "New People" section is somehow hidden in the bottom area of the Home Page. Or you remove it altogether, or you put it in a place where it can be seen (say, as an item in the "Social" menu).
...give people a clearer possibility to create their own smaller communities inside the site
That's it. Again, let me talk about Twitter, which I use and know a bit. On Twitter there are so many different things, from music fans to political discussions, from media and television to chats with friends about what you had for dinner!, but the Twitter page you see is made with the content that are relevant to you, not all the rest. You are readily notified of all interactions you care about, while you can almost completely ignore whatever you are not interested in.
johanlefourbe
8 years, 11 months ago at May 28 14:53 - That's a very interesting discussion.
Personally, I have been on this website for already 5 years and, at some point, I was seriously addicted spending lots of time on daily basis on this website. I did some pretty good stuff, I did some not so good things as well but I was really active. Right now, I'm still checking the website but not as much as before.
Why? I'm not sure. What does make a website successfull and/or interesting? Difficult to say.
I know that I always found disappointing that there was such a low activity on this website. It was the case already 5 years ago and it is even worse now. This forum is a good example. How many users do actually check the forums? How many users are actually active in these forums? Not many, I'm afraid.
The other issue, as pointed out by Lamourderer is that the content is just not really good nowadays. Indeed, just now, I checked the front page and there were maybe only 2 or 3 slighly interesting lists but even those were not really amazing.
Right now, I just do my thing without caring much for the rest. Back in the golden days, if I would publish a new list, I would get some reactions within minutes. Now, only 1 or 2 users seem to be interested but I'm not sure I really care either.
What could be done to improve this? I'm not sure...
Personally, I have been on this website for already 5 years and, at some point, I was seriously addicted spending lots of time on daily basis on this website. I did some pretty good stuff, I did some not so good things as well but I was really active. Right now, I'm still checking the website but not as much as before.
Why? I'm not sure. What does make a website successfull and/or interesting? Difficult to say.
I know that I always found disappointing that there was such a low activity on this website. It was the case already 5 years ago and it is even worse now. This forum is a good example. How many users do actually check the forums? How many users are actually active in these forums? Not many, I'm afraid.
The other issue, as pointed out by Lamourderer is that the content is just not really good nowadays. Indeed, just now, I checked the front page and there were maybe only 2 or 3 slighly interesting lists but even those were not really amazing.
Right now, I just do my thing without caring much for the rest. Back in the golden days, if I would publish a new list, I would get some reactions within minutes. Now, only 1 or 2 users seem to be interested but I'm not sure I really care either.
What could be done to improve this? I'm not sure...
Moderator Admin Tom
8 years, 11 months ago at May 29 17:13 - You nailed it: everyone makes their own thing, but it doesn't feel like a community. Maybe some "Listal social tools" might help? For instance, now you can "share" something with Facebook and Twitter and dozens of other services, yet not with your Listal Friends, so befriending someone just sums up to adding him or her to a list, and that's it.
I'm not saying this would be a bad feature but it seems to go against idea for simplifying the site, it would involve adding another link to share with friends, and then depending on how this was implemented a page for viewing recommended content etc..
Voting for a list is basically recommending the list to friends since if they are following you they will see that on their update feed, having a separate share feature seems it least partly duplicating this.
I do think that having the homepage having promoted lists from people you follow would be a good idea.
3. Personally I think the site is trying too much. It should focus more on a smaller audience or at least give people a clearer possibility to create their own smaller communities inside the site where they can focus on different stuff. Something for everybody is nothing for anyone.
I think people wanting to create lists is quite a small audience, I have been trying to focus on that recently. I added additional categories to enable people to create more diverse types of lists.
This isn't a problem in other social media sites like Tumblr or Twitter or Facebook, because you can have more options to choose what you want to see and what you don't. Here it isn't that simple.
Thats because you only see content from people you follow on those sites, I could make the promoted lists section people you follow only but I think many people would lose motivation to create lists.
Edit. Perhaps you should also clean the forums from all the old topics and make them more user-friendly? Now they look kind of... clunky and finding useful content is impossible. Even a phpBB-styled forum with a separate registration and good moderation would be a step up in my opinion. Also in the future it would be great if topics that are useless would be just deleted.
Separate registration would decrease the activity on forums even more, many of these forum software are bloated with features which doesn't make they very user-friendly imho. These forums are pretty much as simple as you can get, although admittedly some features like being able to easily quote text and having a more visual text editor would help.
I'm repeating myself, but I'd also remove the point system altogether.
I'm probably going to remove the ranks, i'm not sure about the rest of it.
This forum is a good example. How many users do actually check the forums? How many users are actually active in these forums? Not many, I'm afraid.
I don't think forums are a good indicator of activity on a site, forums in general on the internet seem to get used less and less. Most of the most successful social media sites these days do not even have forums e.g. instagram, youtube, pinterest etc.. The main reason I have kept them is for the feedback forum which is useful.
For instance, the "New People" section is somehow hidden in the bottom area of the Home Page. Or you remove it altogether, or you put it in a place where it can be seen (say, as an item in the "Social" menu).
I actually think the opposite is true having something like this on the homepage gives it far more exposure than being a separate page on the menu, although having both might be nice.
Moderator The O.P.
8 years, 11 months ago at May 29 18:36 - How about being able to subscribe to a list or to a movie page and being notified of updates, comments, etc.?
Joe
8 years, 10 months ago at Jun 16 1:26 - I think you might have a point. I think one of the current issues is that everybody sees everything and if 90 % of what you currently see is not of interest to you then you quickly lose interest of everything. Example: Most of the lists I usually see when I open up are of games nowadays. Now all the power to gamers but I'm not the least interested in these lists and if there was a better way of only seeing lists that I would be interested in , I think it would increase level of addiction if I can call it that.
How about if I want to be notified about anything to do with Italian or French movies, this would be of interest to some and so on....So everytime a list I might like based on my desires comes out or is created, I can get some notification. The other thing as others have mentioned is a social chat capability in order to be able to discuss your favourite movie or actor etc. This would increase level of interest I think.
You catch my drift.
How about if I want to be notified about anything to do with Italian or French movies, this would be of interest to some and so on....So everytime a list I might like based on my desires comes out or is created, I can get some notification. The other thing as others have mentioned is a social chat capability in order to be able to discuss your favourite movie or actor etc. This would increase level of interest I think.
You catch my drift.