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39 promoted lists by the same user?

EatMorePez 10 months, 1 week ago at Dec 18 21:51 -
First of all, Polsko makes some great lists. But how in the world do 39 of those lists get promoted to the front page within a span of 5 minutes? And all of the lists have exactly 11 votes. And the user who cast the 11th vote on these 39 lists does nothing on Listal but vote for lists created by Polsko. Very odd.

EDIT: not only does each list have exactly 11 votes, but the votes came from the same 11 users, and were cast in the same exact order. And the Listal activity for those 11 users consists almost entirely of voting for lists and images . . . well you can figure it out by now.
johanlefourbe 10 months, 1 week ago at Dec 20 14:01 -
It is funny, even though I check this website everyday, I didn't even notice it.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious that Polsko has created some fake accounts to promote his/her lists....

Eventually, it didn't really work, as even though all these lists were promoted, nobody else voted on them but, still, it is rather sad that some users would still feel the need to cheat some way or another. I mean, I know that this website is pretty much dead now but it is still not an excuse.
DuckNation 10 months ago at Dec 20 19:12 -
its not like there is a ranking system anymore
johanlefourbe 10 months ago at Dec 21 7:50 -
As long as there is some kind of points system involved, you will apparenly always have this kind of behavior.

Furthermore, about the fact that there is (supposedly) no ranking system anymore : http://www.listal.com/list/top-113-most-influential-listal
EatMorePez 10 months ago at Dec 22 5:21 -
He did it again! What the hell.
johanlefourbe 10 months ago at Dec 22 6:00 -
Indeed...

So sad...
johanlefourbe 9 months, 1 week ago at Jan 19 6:25 -
Again, this user has now 18 lists promoted at the same time...
EatMorePez 9 months ago at Jan 19 22:34 -
And 10 more of his lists have just been promoted to the front page within the last 30 minutes. And the vote that got each list promoted is from one of many sock puppet accounts. Seriously, why is this bs allowed to continue?
johanlefourbe 8 months, 3 weeks ago at Feb 1 11:44 -
It's not the first time I see this behavior... The weird thing is, since there is no real ranking system anymore (as pointed out by DuckNation), I don't really see the point.

Anyway, each time something like this happened before, nothing was actually done by Tom or anyone else so, as far as I'm concerned, I don't really care much but I understand your frustration.
TrekMedic 6 months ago at Apr 23 18:43 -
And here are some of Polsko's (assumed) fake accounts (based on only following Polsko, only activity is voting for Polsko's lists, and all activity starting/stopping around the same time):

http://gay4ever.listal.com/
http://ameliagjoile.listal.com/
http://darksmith00.listal.com/
http://daenerys22.listal.com/
http://natasha00.listal.com/
http://agnes1999.listal.com/
http://steveoconnor.listal.com/
http://morticiaddams.listal.com/
http://samasghari.listal.com/
http://hannahbaker.listal.com/


johanlefourbe 5 months ago at May 20 7:17 -
And again, 14 lists promoted for this member at the same time...
johanlefourbe 5 months ago at May 20 7:17 -
And again, 14 lists promoted for this member at the very same moment...
DuckNation 5 months ago at May 20 9:46 -
yeah i remember when making other accounts to vote for your stuff was a bannable offence i guess this is just another thing Tom's gotten lazy on
TrekMedic 5 months ago at May 22 4:53 -
Well, 2 more moderators have been appointed, so maybe that'll help ease the load on the others?
TrekMedic 5 months ago at May 22 4:54 -
And here are some of Polsko's (assumed) fake accounts (based on only following Polsko, only activity is voting for Polsko's lists, and all activity starting/stopping around the same time):

http://gay4ever.listal.com/
http://ameliagjoile.listal.com/
http://darksmith00.listal.com/
http://daenerys22.listal.com/
http://natasha00.listal.com/
http://agnes1999.listal.com/
http://steveoconnor.listal.com/
http://morticiaddams.listal.com/
http://samasghari.listal.com/
http://hannahbaker.listal.com/


And the same ones are voting for the newly-promoted lists, too?
Moderator
Bml93 4 months ago at Jun 24 10:06 -
There's unfortunately not much that we can do about this. It's a dumb advice, I know, but I suggest that you just try to ignore these lists as much as you can, until/if we get the tools to do anything about it.
johanlefourbe 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 11 12:41 -
And again, this user has 18 lists promoted right now on the Front page...

TrekMedic 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 11 15:54 -
- @ Johan, you beat me to it:

EVERY individual list from his Eurovision Song List group contains votes by his 12+ fake IDs plus one or two real members.
johanlefourbe 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 11 17:28 -
@TrekMedic, yeah, this time, it was even more pathetic than usual since it was so obvious that no actual listal members (OK, 1 or 2...) actually voted for those lists...
TrekMedic 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 11 17:40 -
Message the REAL users about the fraud,...
imanshole 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 12 1:41 -
How is this allowed and why haven't the mods or admins have not taken an action against this? This was posted 7 months ago and he is still keep on doing it.
TrekMedic 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 12 4:30 -
The mods can't delete the fake accounts, only Tom.
johanlefourbe 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 12 12:18 -
@imanshole, in my own experience, when something like this is done, even when it is so obvious like in this case, nothing is done, or, in some extreme cases, only months later. Anyway, as TrekMedic pointed out, the mods shouldn't be blamed since there is nothing they can do, even if they wanted to.
imanshole 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 12 15:45 -
They should really be given more power to control this site, cuz the admins are never here and it's gonna just encourage more people like Polsko to create fake accounts to just bolster their points. I like people who are here because they are passionate about what they create and want to share it with others, polsko is as far from that as you can get. He not only creates fake accounts but some of his lists are just direct duplicates of others i have seen.
virtualspring 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 14 22:23 -
Oh, strange and sad :/
virtualspring 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 14 22:32 -
But guys are you sure about this? What If these people are just Polsko's fans or something like this?
TrekMedic 2 months, 1 week ago at Aug 15 0:39 -
@ Virtualspring: Earlier in this thread, I compiled a list of the same people who ONLY vote for Polsko's lists and, generally, are ONLY following him. Other than that, they have absolutely no activity on their profiles. Please join us in blocking him and boycotting his lists from now on.
moviewatcher122 1 month, 1 week ago at Sep 14 9:44 -
I just found this thread and all I can say it's good to know that I can delete the comments this user left me without any regrets. They were flooding my profile and to be honest, I'm not interested in his lists and the alt accounts just cements the quality of them. I get that this site isn't quite what it used to be, but have some confidence in your lists.
johanlefourbe 1 week, 2 days ago at Oct 14 6:16 -
Wow... The guy has broken his record. 47 lists promoted at the same time! It is really getting ridiculous.
johanlefourbe 1 week, 1 day ago at Oct 15 7:09 -
Seriously, the guy has completely hijacked the website! By now, I have lost count one how many of his bullsh*t lists are in the front page. ...
Argus 1 week ago at Oct 16 8:34 -
He's Just created a new bunch of pretend friends

http://cassandragoth.listal.com/
http://anubis28.listal.com/
http://eros476.listal.com/
http://afrodite.listal.com/

I think half of the regular Listal userbase might be Polsko at this point...
johanlefourbe 6 days, 8 hours ago at Oct 17 8:09 -
@Argus, yeah, that's a rather accurate assessement of the current state of this website...
Argus 6 days, 7 hours ago at Oct 17 8:32 -
Here's another one he just created

http://loreen.listal.com/

Basically the moderation is so utterly weak that people like this treat the site as a joke. But y'know Johan we've been through stuff like this a million times before, it's a bit like banging our heads against a brick wall. Before Polsko there was CarryOnBuff and Meganfan (and I'm sure there was more before that) and it'll keep on going so long as the moderators have no real control to stop it, other than report it to the big chief, who seemingly cares very little.
TrekMedic 6 days, 2 hours ago at Oct 17 13:48 -
@Argus, Meganfan's original profile simply spammed the s**t out of everything (and created a ton of repetitive, unoriginal, copycat lists). But oddly, someone is power is swiftly dealing with the Bian/Dariani Belle multiple users BS:

http://www.listal.com/topic/deleted-this-account-bian
http://www.listal.com/topic/extremely-spam-account-here-listal

However, it's come up before in the forums: I don't think the moderators are being "weak," I think they simply don't have the authority to delete profiles; that power rests only with Listal's owner, Tom.

That said, I can't understand why Polsko's blatant fake accounts are being kept active (vs the whole Bian issue) and all his lists are constantly receiving this much patronage (it doesn't help that some other members, who know about this, are willingly supporting this behavior by voting for his lists).

I'll say it again: block him, block his fake accounts and don't patronize what's being promoted and maybe he'll get the message.

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