Suggestion for books section

Seeing as the RP threads have been vanquished from the Anime section, how about imposing a similar rule to the Books section? Own, non-published stories/possible "book-ideas" for the Random Chat section only. Sure there isn't a flood of them just yet, but its a possibility in the future and it really just isn't relevant.
EDIT
Just to make it easier for sorting, heres the threads I'm pointing at:
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7756/
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7519/
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7408/
And as a side note... Moving required:
NOT a Books thread - www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/2866/
IS a Books thread - www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/286/
EDIT
Just to make it easier for sorting, heres the threads I'm pointing at:
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7756/
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7519/
www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/7408/
And as a side note... Moving required:
NOT a Books thread - www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/2866/
IS a Books thread - www.listal.com/groups/viewthread/286/
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Yeah.. this whole "Write your own story thing" is odd.... I'm not a fan, but I'm curious as to what others think. I'd personally just move it to random chatter, but even that's not particularly appropriate.
(I moved the two threads for ya! :)
(I moved the two threads for ya! :)
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Well, well. You're modding now Voxy? Or are you taking advantage of another bug? :P
The only problem is if someone needs good advice for anything Random Chat is the last place they're going to start a thread. If the thread can be productive and it's readable enough (the topic is, after all, writing), then it might as well stay. If it's an eyesore there's no reason to keep the bugger amongst General threads.
It'd be nice if there was a field for 'Genre' (with unnegotiable genres for specification) that could be edited. Mind you, cross-genre things could be catalogued by entering a comma between genres (you can do this with current fields). Simply searching 'vampire' or a similar term is inconvenient. It'd be easier to search 'vampire' in addition to whichever genre you're looking for - a vampire novel can be horror, romance, comedy, science fiction, even non-fiction *shivers*.
EDIT: Sorry, I read the thread title and processed 'Suggestions' rather than 'Suggestion', which made me think contibutions were welcome. I think this kind of thing is deserving of its own thread...
The only problem is if someone needs good advice for anything Random Chat is the last place they're going to start a thread. If the thread can be productive and it's readable enough (the topic is, after all, writing), then it might as well stay. If it's an eyesore there's no reason to keep the bugger amongst General threads.
It'd be nice if there was a field for 'Genre' (with unnegotiable genres for specification) that could be edited. Mind you, cross-genre things could be catalogued by entering a comma between genres (you can do this with current fields). Simply searching 'vampire' or a similar term is inconvenient. It'd be easier to search 'vampire' in addition to whichever genre you're looking for - a vampire novel can be horror, romance, comedy, science fiction, even non-fiction *shivers*.
EDIT: Sorry, I read the thread title and processed 'Suggestions' rather than 'Suggestion', which made me think contibutions were welcome. I think this kind of thing is deserving of its own thread...
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Yep. Moving any type of creative activity like this to random chat would be unnecessarily cruel. If you disagree, please go read through a few of the threads there.
One solution might be to move these type of writings to the profile page as blog type entries people could comment on. But would that create a whole new type of Listal misuser, who uses Listal only as a personal blog? I dunno, you tell me.
One solution might be to move these type of writings to the profile page as blog type entries people could comment on. But would that create a whole new type of Listal misuser, who uses Listal only as a personal blog? I dunno, you tell me.
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I suppose if they're posting such a thread it's devoid of purpose to move it because of spelling/grammar. After all, they're asking for suggestions so just tell them there are three ways to spell to/too/two. If they get offended and tell users that give this kind of suggestion to stop posting in the thread (as thread makers occasionally have the gall to do), then they're contradicting their own thread's purpose and the situation would need to be handled based on the circumstances.

Voxy its not a write your own story -___-' I was asking for help from people, of course nobody really gave a fuck, so I'll find help elsewhere
EDIT: Voxy also, you can delete both of those threads that I posted anyways, they useless spam if no one is going to even bother giving advice
EDIT... 2 :D : I wasn't very clear in the first part. I was posting the STARTING of MY story and asking people to look it over and see if they saw any flaws or lack of skill anywhere cuz I'm trying to make this one good. However, nobody is pointing out flaws(Or bothering to read it for that matter) so again, delete away!
EDIT: Voxy also, you can delete both of those threads that I posted anyways, they useless spam if no one is going to even bother giving advice
EDIT... 2 :D : I wasn't very clear in the first part. I was posting the STARTING of MY story and asking people to look it over and see if they saw any flaws or lack of skill anywhere cuz I'm trying to make this one good. However, nobody is pointing out flaws(Or bothering to read it for that matter) so again, delete away!
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No one needs to delete your thread just because you're getting dumb responses, right? How about this: the particular posts can be deleted. 'Sides, I have a feeling we're going to have one or two less Naruts on the forum by tomorrow...
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Yep. Moving any type of creative activity like this to random chat would be unnecessarily cruel. If you disagree, please go read through a few of the threads there.
Um... I gotta be honest, I don't even step into there! :P I am not a fan of disorganized chaos and free-for-alls. I figure I might lose a part of myself if I cross that threshold.
And no... I don't plan on deleting it or randomly deleting replies you don't like. In my opinion, that sort of falls under "abuse of power."

(prelude pops his head in, face all covered with blood 'n' guts)
Yeah, Random Chat is deadly....
(stares blindly into the sky)
The insurgency is in its last stage...
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but back to topic, yeah, Books should be about discussion of published books. personal fan fiction and such may need to go into Random Chat. but i'm not 100% sure on that. maybe once mods have their own group to discuss listal policies, we can sort it out. I too would hate to throw a thread about 'help me with my novel i'm writing' over into the crazy abyss that is 'Random Chat'. it would be more humane to kill them first.
Yeah, Random Chat is deadly....
(stares blindly into the sky)
The insurgency is in its last stage...
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but back to topic, yeah, Books should be about discussion of published books. personal fan fiction and such may need to go into Random Chat. but i'm not 100% sure on that. maybe once mods have their own group to discuss listal policies, we can sort it out. I too would hate to throw a thread about 'help me with my novel i'm writing' over into the crazy abyss that is 'Random Chat'. it would be more humane to kill them first.

"dont...go...in....there"
*Adagio for strings*
The books section definately needs to have an eye kept on it; we dont want people posting any old working progress titles in there;
"My cat is large for a house cat, but small in usual cat terms; if one considers the Lynx or the Tiger"
But at its current stage, I dont think its an issue...maybe if all creative writing was kept to one or two threads.
Thats true, rewarding him for branching out a bit by sending him back to the trenches. Although Yama, from now on, keep your book updates to one thread maybe?
*Adagio for strings*
The books section definately needs to have an eye kept on it; we dont want people posting any old working progress titles in there;
"My cat is large for a house cat, but small in usual cat terms; if one considers the Lynx or the Tiger"
But at its current stage, I dont think its an issue...maybe if all creative writing was kept to one or two threads.
Moving any type of creative activity like this to random chat would be unnecessarily cruel
Thats true, rewarding him for branching out a bit by sending him back to the trenches. Although Yama, from now on, keep your book updates to one thread maybe?

just a thought... since RP (true Role-Playing, not 'battles') in a perverse way may also fall in with same category as 'fan fiction' and 'write own novel', what about a new group for all of the above, titled 'Creative Corner' or something to that effect?
of course, it would be moderated to keep the garbage at a minimum, but it would help manage such threads a lot better.
of course, it would be moderated to keep the garbage at a minimum, but it would help manage such threads a lot better.
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Not a bad idea. Would you kill Random Chat then? (Would you? Please?)

what about a new group for all of the above, titled 'Creative Corner' or something to that effect?
I was thinking this aswell; just at what point to we stop creating new topics?
As much as I'd like to see the Random Chat killed off, it accounts for a good deal of this sites activity and is certainly one of its key draws; to those who dont see the site as what it truely is.
(I really have to stop having an opinion on everything. I have a dissertation chapter due in tomoz and have hardly written a thing)

honestly, i'm tempted, but it may backfire on us. If we get Tom to delete that group, the next day I'll be deleting thread after thread in General Discussion, Anime, Movies, and tons of other places.
Random Chat will be handled a different way.
Random Chat will be handled a different way.
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Less than a week, I believe.
Those story threads and what not are the type of things I quickly skim through... So whatever is decided on what to do with those, I'm cool. The "Creative Corner" thing kind of makes sense if you think about it in relation to this site; sharing poems, written works, art, screenplays, etc.
Those story threads and what not are the type of things I quickly skim through... So whatever is decided on what to do with those, I'm cool. The "Creative Corner" thing kind of makes sense if you think about it in relation to this site; sharing poems, written works, art, screenplays, etc.

Yeah, I like the idea...I've got a lymeric or two I dont mind sharing *snaps braces*. Good luck in the RC area, it's not for the faint of heart; I just keep seeing Prelude coming up for air covered in blood then diving back in with a dagger in his mouth.
*braces self for rule under the Canada Mafia*
*braces self for rule under the Canada Mafia*
This message has been deleted. Reason: Seriously off-topic with lots of off-colour "baddle" remarks

:)
ok, gonna make a formal request to our master, Tom the Gilded One, in Listal Dev for a 'Creative Corner' and will use this thread as reference, so further talk of that nature should be directed there.
ok, gonna make a formal request to our master, Tom the Gilded One, in Listal Dev for a 'Creative Corner' and will use this thread as reference, so further talk of that nature should be directed there.
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Hey, where can I get my own sycophant from?
Seriously though, why not just abolish 'Random Chat' altogether, Prelude? You don't come on this site to spend all of your time deleting awful threads and mindless mumbo jumbo. All the while you do that it detracts from your contribution to listal as a whole, which is a shame. The rules for that place are generally no 'Hi, Who's online?'" threads, but that is all that gets posted there.
All other topics of conversation can be covered in General Discussion which can be more efficiently moderated accordingly. Random chat is like setting up a spam forum for them to spam senselessly, but having to wade in and keep it in check anyway, I never saw the point of it.
Seriously though, why not just abolish 'Random Chat' altogether, Prelude? You don't come on this site to spend all of your time deleting awful threads and mindless mumbo jumbo. All the while you do that it detracts from your contribution to listal as a whole, which is a shame. The rules for that place are generally no 'Hi, Who's online?'" threads, but that is all that gets posted there.
All other topics of conversation can be covered in General Discussion which can be more efficiently moderated accordingly. Random chat is like setting up a spam forum for them to spam senselessly, but having to wade in and keep it in check anyway, I never saw the point of it.

i mentioned it before, banning 'Random Chat' will cause them to infect other groups. best to keep the disease contained to one area and slowly squeeze them out.
and yes, deleting threads was taking too much time, but it really has died down a lot, and I have a dozen good reviews in my head for recent films. I'm just having writer's block, though 80% of it is in my head already written out.
gonna review The Mist, Darjeeling Limited, Bee Movie, American Gangster, Dan in Real Life and some others real soon. This week anyways.
and yes, deleting threads was taking too much time, but it really has died down a lot, and I have a dozen good reviews in my head for recent films. I'm just having writer's block, though 80% of it is in my head already written out.
gonna review The Mist, Darjeeling Limited, Bee Movie, American Gangster, Dan in Real Life and some others real soon. This week anyways.
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There... took care of that business! :D
(I promise, I'll never do that again, but I couldn't resist)
(I promise, I'll never do that again, but I couldn't resist)

LOL OMG VOXY!!! hihi k ^.^
(i couldnt resist either)
(i couldnt resist either)

And GA, a Bee Movie review awaits you. Damn you, better give it a vote since I posted it out of guilt :)
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I'm afraid I haven't seen Bee Movie, I always assumed it sucked though. Good to see you back in the game!

just a thought... since RP (true Role-Playing, not 'battles') in a perverse way may also fall in with same category as 'fan fiction' and 'write own novel', what about a new group for all of the above, titled 'Creative Corner' or something to that effect?
of course, it would be moderated to keep the garbage at a minimum, but it would help manage such threads a lot better.
Pure Genius Prelude, and if we were to delete the random chat zone, somebody would IMMEDIATELY have to PM EVERY RPer on this site and tell them that the RP was moved to creative corner,
or else there'd be PURE Chaos...
of course, it would be moderated to keep the garbage at a minimum, but it would help manage such threads a lot better.
Pure Genius Prelude, and if we were to delete the random chat zone, somebody would IMMEDIATELY have to PM EVERY RPer on this site and tell them that the RP was moved to creative corner,
or else there'd be PURE Chaos...