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Freudian Trio: Real Life

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Plato

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Plato "tripartite soul" consists of the appetitive (id), spirited (superego), and rational (ego) parts. In The Republic, he claims the perfect government reflects the human soul, being made up of three parts:

The masses, merchants and laborers, are the appetitive/id. They have a free market, always seek to satisfy their personal desires, and want as much freedom as possible.

The Military is the spirited/superego, and seeks to maintain order and the rule of law.


The government, which in Plato's ideal republic would be a group of philosopher-kings who aren't allowed to own any wealth, are the rational/ego. They command the other two groups and maintain balance between the masses' wish for freedom and the military's wish for order.
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Command of the Army of North Virginia

(Chancellorsville)

Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson: imaginative, risk-taking, bold, passionate. (Id)

Robert E. Lee: overall commander, principled but basically realistic, provided balance between Jackson and Longstreet. (Ego)

James Longstreet: highly principled, the voice of logic and reason. (Superego)
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Chicago Bulls

Key Players of the 1990s

The wild, volatile bad boy (Id)

The ultra-charismatic leader, could be selfish on the court, but was always thinking of getting his team the win, at any cost (Ego)

Unselfish, passive (at least when Jordan was on the court) and the most reasonable one (Superego)
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Boston's "Big Three"

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He is the youngest and the most impulsive. (Id)
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The (official) leader mixes aggression with cool-headed efficiency (Ego)
Intense to the point of madness, but always thinking of the team (Superego)
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Los Angeles Lakers

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The leader, wants to win, but has a tendency to take too many risks, forcing Gasol and Odom to save the day (Id)
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In the middle, a risk-taker when it's necessary to win (Ego)
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Victory before everything else (Superego)
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Miami Heat

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The current leader, the most cerebral player but personality-wise Hyperactive, uses more aggressive play (Id)
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The former leader, usually humble and moderate (Ego)
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Smart, excellent student (Superego)
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Central figures of Washington administration

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Idealistic and concerned with the states' and people's rights, romanticized the bloodbath of the French Revolution. (Id)

The President, and therefore the man in charge, who kept balance between Hamilton and Jefferson (Ego)

Logical, calculating, concerned with establishing a stable economy and central government. (Superego)
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WWII Allies


Impulsive and romantic, a Large Ham who is too easily giving in to his own desires. (Id)

Eternally mediating between the two, knowing full well the risks of falling in either direction (fall to Winston, start World War III against Joe. Fall to Joe, lose Eurasia). (Ego)

Cold and calculating, noted for personal discipline (paranoid personal discipline, but discipline). (Superego).
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Axis Powers


Provide a fine example of a dysfunctional, even neurotic, relationship:
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Nazi Germany, especially Adolf Hitler himself: Extremely passionate, charismatic, vindictive, artistic yet too aggressive and full of Hubris, reason for war is genetic superiority and Roaring Rampage of Revenge against the Versailles Treaty, grows more and more chaotic, irrational and angst-ridden as the war progresses, was eventually consumed by his own megalomania (inflated Id)

Fascist Italy: Provides the template for the Fascist form of government yet they are not as warmongering as Hitler or the Japanese, a little more rational with rejecting Hitler's genocidal methods and the Japanese ideal of Honour, but had a poor performance in the war, which forced them to ally with the Allies at the last minute (a weakened Ego)

Imperial Japan: Noted for their stoicism and obedience to an ancient high-standard code of honour and discipline, which eventually became corrupted into obsessive Honor Before Reason that's anti-individualistic and self-destructive (obsessive-compulsive Superego)
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Paris 1919


The leaders were also dysfunctional, but not as much:

Ambitious, feisty, and more than a little bit vindictive. This last bit gave him an intense and personal desire to see Germany pay. (Id)

Emphatically moral to the point of being puritanical, as well as being very cold and logical (he was not only a college professor, but he was part of the movement that tried to make political science as much like a science as possible). He insisted that the world comply with his moral conception of order, and didn't think much of anyone who disagreed. (Superego)

An easygoing, personable fellow trying to mediate between the two. He want to punish Germany but not take vengeance; was OK with the League but didn't think it was workable; he thought self-determination was nice-seeming but that concessions had to be made to power politics; and he was consistently frustrated both by Clemenceau's vengeful scheming and Wilson's sermons. Unlike most in his position, he was overshadowed; as he put it, he was sitting between Napoleon (Clemenceau) and Jesus Christ (Wilson), so no wonder the agreement was so dysfunctional. (Ego)

It didn't help that Lloyd George was simultaneously playing the Ego to the entirely British Empire delegation, most especially Billy Hughes (bombastic, vindictive Australian PM in bed with Clemenceau; Id) and Robert Borden (Canadian PM, logical, a stickler for protocol, and in an uneasy alliance with Wilson; superego).

Within that, Borden himself was playing Ego to Wilson's Superego and the collective Id of the British Dominions (led by Hughes but also including New Zealand's William Massey and South Africa's Defence Minister Jan Smuts) over the issue of League of Nations Mandates (Australia and New Zealand wanted German Pacific colonies; South Africa wanted Namibia; and Canada wanted control of Britain's colonies in the Americas).
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Representative government




The legislature represents the will of the people. (Id)


The executive is the primary decision maker, they have to balance ideals and strategic objectives with the situation at hand, and they have to fulfill the desires of the legislature while still being under the criticizing eyes of the judiciary (Ego)


The judiciary: Guilty or not guilty? The judiciary also has to judge if a law is constitutional (Superego)
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Eminem

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The three faces of Eminem:
Slim Shady (Id)


Eminem (Ego)


Marshall Mathers (Superego)
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US Cities


Could depend on your viewpoint, but if you were to take the three most well known cities in the United States, you'd have:

Los Angeles: Id

New York: Ego

Chicago: Superego
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The Beatles


The three main Beatles, who were there with Ringo Starr and Pete Best before.

Id
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Ego

Superego
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Bob Dylan

The blogger Tony of Every Bob Dylan Song made the observation (in his post about "All I Really Want To Do") that Bob Dylan's early trio of acoustic folk albums follows this pattern.
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Another Side of Bob Dylan: Id (more lighthearted, mostly personal songs about relationships)


The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan: Ego (has some serious songs as well as more personal ones)


The Times They Are a-Changin: Superego (mostly serious, moralistic social commentary songs)
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Rush

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Id

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Ego (Geddy also displays some Id tendencies but is overall more of an Ego than Alex.)
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Superego
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Piano trio


On of the most popular classical 3-piece line-ups is the piano trio, consisting of piano, violin and cello. In this you have a treble instrument (violin) and a bass instrument (cello), both of which can be highly expressive in their own right, and an instrument that can be a bit of both (the piano). So violin + cello = id + superego (either way round - depends on the piece and the composer), while piano = ego.

Cello

Violin
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Piano
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Team Xtreme

When they existed.
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The daredevil who went for the pleasure and excitement of the moment consequences be damned, definitely the Id.
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Lita, Action Girl who was almost in the exact middle of the brothers so far as personality, and more than once had to break up a fight between them, being the Ego.
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Usually coming up with the plans and trying to keep the other two safe and under control, playing the Superego.
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Legacy

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Id
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Ego
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