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      <title>Typical Movie Arguments That Irk Me...</title>
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      <description>Casual filmgoers take movies for granted way too much. It&#039;s because of them that we get dumb summer movies, English-language remakes of foreign movies and scripts that are compromised for bigger box office.

But the criticisms and arguments are so fucking inane... Open your goddamn mind.

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      	<title>Drive</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/drive-2009&#039; title=&quot;Drive&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/2413604/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;It&#039;s too slow and boring, should&#039;ve had more action!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a distinct difference between what you want and what a filmmaker&#039;s vision is. &lt;i&gt;Drive&lt;/i&gt; is not about car chases or action; it&#039;s a crime/drama/thriller. Just because it doesn&#039;t have the action you expected it to have, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that it&#039;s a bad movie - it just means it isn&#039;t for you. Because the film was not tailor-made to your vision, you have no right to wander around saying &amp;quot;Dude it was the worst movie ever!&amp;quot; That just makes you look fucking inane.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:42:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Let the Right One In</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/let-me-in&#039; title=&quot;Let the Right One In&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/225551/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;It&#039;s foreign and subtitled! I don&#039;t want to read subtitles! It&#039;ll be so boring&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Imagine for a second that you spend months and months making a motion picture. For the sake of argument, let&#039;s say you wrote and directed it, and poured your heart and soul into the finished movie.&lt;br /&gt;
Now let&#039;s imagine that your distributor needed to release it in non-English countries, and it needed to be subtitled. How would you like it if non-English speakers automatically hated your movie because it was in English?&lt;br /&gt;
Being subtitled doesn&#039;t mean bad or boring. It means you have to concentrate on the movie. And that&#039;s the thing about movies: you &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; give them your full concentration without any distractions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:42:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>King Kong</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/king-kong-1933&#039; title=&quot;King Kong&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/61321/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;It&#039;s old! Effects are crappy and it&#039;s boring&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What&#039;s your favourite movie right now? For the sake of argument, let&#039;s say it was made 5 years ago. Now fast-forward 25 or 30 years. Now your favourite movie is about 35 years old and would look rather dated. Would you then hate it?&lt;br /&gt;
Who cares about how old the movie is? If a movie is good, it&#039;ll grab your attention regardless of its age. Why does it matter if the picture is a little grainier, or if the audio sounds dated? Give a movie a chance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:42:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>District 9</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/district-9&#039; title=&quot;District 9&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/683340/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Those aliens were shit! They should&#039;ve destroyed those humans easily! Would&#039;ve been better with big battles of humans vs. aliens!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This criticism is another case of your expectations being different from an artist&#039;s vision. &lt;i&gt;District 9&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s aliens are weak grunts, the equivalent of worker ants. They don&#039;t have the ability to go to war, and they&#039;re starving and desperate. Once again, just because the movie wasn&#039;t full of alien combat or anything stereotypically &amp;quot;cool&amp;quot;, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a bad movie, and you have no right to call it as such.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:44:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Rear Window</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/rear-window&#039; title=&quot;Rear Window&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/1249800/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Eh it&#039;s so predictable now, I knew what was gonna happen.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not kidding, someone literally watched this after seeing &lt;i&gt;Disturbia&lt;/i&gt; and said they could see where &lt;i&gt;Rear Window&lt;/i&gt; was headed. Well yeah, when your mind has been tarnished by plenty of imitators, you will have those movies in the back of your mind.&lt;br /&gt;
But when &lt;i&gt;Rear Window&lt;/i&gt; was first released so many decades ago, nobody had seen anything of the sort. It was fresh and original. You&#039;re a fucking retard if you call a classic film unoriginal because you&#039;ve seen the films that the classic inspired.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:49:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring&#039; title=&quot;The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/3765/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The book was so much better!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oh here we go. The juicy complaint from the pseudo-intellectuals who think they&#039;re superior because they have the patience to read a book.&lt;br /&gt;
Xanadont said it best: the complaint comes from &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;people who don&#039;t understand that adaptations between two different mediums necessitates certain sacrifices, reconstructions, embellishments, and other tricky and subjective decisions.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
People dislike Tom Bombadill&#039;s exclusion from &lt;i&gt;Fellowship of the Ring&lt;/i&gt;, but would it REALLY have made an impact on the plot? No... It would&#039;ve been a useless plot digression that&#039;d give more people cause to call the film boring or too long. Take &lt;i&gt;FOTR&lt;/i&gt; on its own terms, and it&#039;s a marvellous standalone movie which gives vivid life to Tolkien&#039;s excellent ideas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:25:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>No Country for Old Men</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/no-country-old-men&#039; title=&quot;No Country for Old Men&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/109002/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;WTF was with that ending?&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We get so many happy, upbeat endings because Hollywood knows what people want: to walk away with a warm, fuzzy feeling. Everything needs to be wrapped up tidily and filmgoers don&#039;t want to engage their brain.&lt;br /&gt;
And then when they&#039;re confronted by something like &lt;i&gt;No Country for Old Men&lt;/i&gt;, they shit themselves. I actually remember talking to a friend who worked in a video store a few years back. Someone hired this movie on the day of release, and returned it to complain that the disc skipped a few scenes and went straight to the credits when in fact he saw the whole movie but couldn&#039;t grasp this. They couldn&#039;t double-check the time-codes on their DVD player or think about the ending; their first thought was that the disc fucked up.&lt;br /&gt;
Brain fodder doesn&#039;t hurt, people...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:29:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Michael Clayton</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/michael-clayton-2007&#039; title=&quot;Michael Clayton&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/114043/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;It didn&#039;t make sense!! It was shit!!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not every movie is designed to be properly digested in one sitting. In some movies, if you miss the littlest detail or dialogue exchange, you may find yourself lost. It&#039;s true of many movies, ranging from &lt;i&gt;Michael Clayton&lt;/i&gt; to more complex films like &lt;i&gt;Mulholland Drive&lt;/i&gt;. Not every stab at this type of complex film is successful, granted, but if a film does in fact make sense and/or has room for you to create your own interpretation, this complaint is utterly naive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:57:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Australia</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/australia&#039; title=&quot;Australia&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/388600/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;This is so stupid!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt; (referring to cultural-specific things they just do not understand)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I could put an array of movies on this list to address this point, but &lt;i&gt;Australia&lt;/i&gt; deserves some love. I can&#039;t tell you how many times people have complained about the scene in which Nullah (the &amp;quot;African Australian&amp;quot; as some have called him...you know what? Your retardation is off the charts if you&#039;ve used that term) prevents the stampede from going over the cliff. They say his &amp;quot;magical powers&amp;quot; are fucking stupid and the scene is cringe-worthy. These retards, however, are just naive about Aboriginal culture. They are very in tune with the land and animals. After all, it&#039;s theorised they travelled to Australia during the freaking ICE AGE, and were stuck with spears and arrows until the white settlers arrived.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:57:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Transformers</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/transformers-2007&#039; title=&quot;Transformers&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/305044/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;It&#039;s just a dumb action movie! If you don&#039;t like it, go watch Gone with the Wind.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is actually an argument in defence of a terrible movie, and it&#039;s almost always wrong. Whenever people express how much they detest something like &lt;i&gt;Transformers&lt;/i&gt;, the fans immediately leap in and say &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;It&#039;s just a dumb action movie! It&#039;s fun! If you don&#039;t like it, go watch a boring artsy drama&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;quot; Or something to that tune. And ultimately, the argument is tiresome. I don&#039;t want &lt;i&gt;Transformers&lt;/i&gt; to be &lt;i&gt;Gone with the Wind&lt;/i&gt; or something, I want it to be &lt;i&gt;Die Hard&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Lethal Weapon&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;The Terminator&lt;/i&gt;. By that I mean, I want a &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; action movie which is stylish and competently written. Not a film like &lt;i&gt;Transformers&lt;/i&gt; that&#039;s boring and filled with inane dialogue.&lt;br /&gt;
Just because we hate dialogue like &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;Bumblebee, stop lubricating the man&lt;/i&gt;!&amp;quot;, doesn&#039;t mean we want characters discussing their feelings. Just because we hate robots with testicles, doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;d prefer to see a wedding ceremony. Just because we hate shaky-cam and frenzied editing, doesn&#039;t mean we want a 5-minute shot of a character staring at another character.&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe we&#039;d prefer genuinely witty dialogue in our dumb action films. Maybe we prefer action we can follow easily without getting a migraine. Maybe we prefer creativity, not 15-year-old boy smut like testicles on a robot.&lt;br /&gt;
Please learn the distinction between &amp;quot;Good fun dumb action movie&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Horrendously dull, witless action movie&amp;quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:22:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      	<title>Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope</title>
      	<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.listal.com/movie/star-wars&#039; title=&quot;Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#039;http://i2.listal.com/image/36998/50full.jpg&#039; style=&quot;float:left;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Typical Argument:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Read the comics/books, it&#039;ll make more sense!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Why That&#039;s Bullshit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I chose &lt;i&gt;Star Wars&lt;/i&gt; for this because it&#039;s notorious for having an entire &amp;quot;expanded universe&amp;quot; of comics, books, videogames, television shows, and so on. The Broadway play probably isn&#039;t far off.&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone picks up on any plot inconsistencies, or questions why a random character shows up on one occasion then is never seen again, the nerds automatically tell them to read the comic or novel that expounds on a certain character and their rich history.&lt;br /&gt;
Which is complete bullshit.&lt;br /&gt;
Another good example of &lt;i&gt;Akira&lt;/i&gt;. I couldn&#039;t make heads or tails of it, and later found out it was compressed from a huge comic book series. When I said I couldn&#039;t follow it, I was told to read the comic and it&#039;ll make more sense. Again, bullshit.&lt;br /&gt;
Why the FUCK should I have to do additional homework? I&#039;m watching a feature film, I expect to have the full experience and all the information I&#039;ll need. I don&#039;t expect to have to spend another two weeks of my life reading a book or comic to fill in the blanks left by a movie. Especially in &lt;i&gt;Akira&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s case, what&#039;s the point in making an adaptation of a comic if viewers have to go read the comic anyway? Shouldn&#039;t the adaptation be able to stand as its own entity?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/center&gt;</description>
      	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
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