Thanks for chiming in, guys! Especially those of you I personally motivated to do so with threat of paper-cutting.
The site's slogan is "List the stuff you love". It's not "The more stuff you list, the more points you get".
Exactly. Listal contributions should be labors of love, not impersonal stuff the creator churns out to get points.
I don't want to break the mood but it is exactly the whole point/ranking thing that got me addicted to this website. To me, it is a big game of creativity and wits, you have to come out with a great concept, a nice layout, then the first votes come in, the promotions and then .... the points! What a rush... It is like crack for me and Facebook is nothing compared to this. Of course, there is the temptation to cheat around and at the end of the day, there are many messed up things going on our beloved website...
Maybe replacing the points with awards, it could be cool. Why not?
I guess it can be addicting. We could still have voting, promotion, and rewarding of contributions. Or if we follow the giraffe's model, we could cut back on or do away with points for different things. I think an Awards system would work in conjunction with these things, though Tom would have to figure out what he could give us as he only owns so many islands. =P Seriously, though, we might be able to think of site perks.
What if the points system was just simplified? Now that Listal has been around awhile, I see no sense in awarding points for adding any content that's not a review or a list. That goes for rating, editing, and (especially) tagging items too. If users want to do those things they can, but since none of it requires much effort there shouldn't be points given in exchange for them.
That's a good idea. Rating should be for personal reference or recommendation to others and tagging should be a helpful or creative means of telling others about an item or a means of finding out about similar things by way of searching a tag.
I like the way the points are set up for reviews now, but would love to see an option added to flag them if they're obviously not reviews (like the tracklists PvtCaboose91 mentioned) or if they're obviously not someone's original work (copy/pastes from other sites).
This would make sense, rather than deleting everything. I don't mind having *credited* copy/pasted reviews or track listings for albums that don't have tracks listed yet, but they shouldn't appear before actual reviews on an item's feed and probably shouldn't be awarded the same amount of points as an original review.
2) An official Top 10 section would be nice to have, instead of the proliferation of individual Top 10 voting lists we have all over the place. If anyone has used the Top 10 app on Spotify, that's a great example.
Perhaps the voting could promote lists to a hidden promoted list, and a tribunal could pick from them - along with lists they know about by other means - to create the latest Top 10 or other number list?
Ok, so I've thought a little more about this and come to a couple conclusions. The first being that I want to be PK's friend again. (Mostly because I forgot for a second there that you're a moderator, and thus I live in fear of you.)
So while there are lots of great ideas floating around on how to modify the point system, and what would be the best fit, I guess I'm saying that whatever modifications are made (unless they're incredibly drastic and ill-conceived) it won't make too much difference to me.
A wise man once said "Either you are with us, or you are with the Plano, TX installation of Bennigans.
" I'm glad to hear an altering opinion. =]
sounds really cool.
Ooo, maybe you could use "belt colors" like in karate? I think it would be kind of awesome to be a Green-Belt List author, aspiring for a Black Belt.
Now that I think about it, there are a ton of creative possibilities for titles. We could even use a business model: Fall-Down Guy whom Higher-Ups Let Go to Jail for Them, Still Mostly Innocent Employee Who's Starting to be Influenced by the Company, Aspiring Back-Stabber, then Soulless Kingpin. There's a lot to think about.