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People who added this item 330 Average listal rating (160 ratings) 7.6 IMDB Rating 7.9
The basic plot of the Borgias revolves around the pope who is super corrupt trying to keep himself and his family in power amist more and more enemies who would remove him.
My favorite characters are Cesare, Lucrezia, Cardinal Sfortsa and the French king (#1). I usually do not have such love for characters when watching TV.

Cardinol Sfortsa when he finds out that the pope has survived his poisoning responds that if an hour ago the pope was barely standing, by now he is probably having sex with a servant girl with wine in one hand and food in the other.

Lucrezia begins as a surprising naive character and evolves out of necessity into her family name (the Borgia name is synonymous with corruption and scandal).
Cesare, oh Cesare. Extremely competent, with a sidekick who does all the immoral killing necessary.

Yes, the family takes part in murder and war, but you empathize with them. They're trying to keep themselves in power and protecting their own. And hey, at least they care about the poor and they've never sent plague to anyone's house (they just kind of sent an entire army into plague city, but it's different).

Also Take Me To Church is their fucking theme song. Bet you the show would've got another season if you removed your theme, mhm.
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People who added this item 1592 Average listal rating (969 ratings) 7.7 IMDB Rating 8.7
This show is filled with plot holes and logical inconsistencies and it frequently abandons its main characters (did the chief even get an ending??!). However, it also has pretty great world building and amazing characters and the word frak. I highly recommend never watching the last episode. Ever. Ever.

As for people who actually enjoyed the last episode, why do you hate these characters? As for the people who wrote the entire story arc of Starbuck and Apollo, you know the ones who were like I don't know what the bird meant but it's metaphorical and shit so we put it in and the ones who were like yeah we thought having no one know what happened to the best fracking character on the show was a GREAT idea - FUCK YOU.

I love this show. I loathe the writers.
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People who added this item 469 Average listal rating (228 ratings) 8 IMDB Rating 8.6
Anti-capitalist, anti-social, mental illness representation. So well acted. So good in the pilot but after a promising epic, society-critical start I'm not sure where it's heading and it's already brought in a random psychopath (people usually reserve those for their later seasons). The idea of a revolution against capitalist inequality actually based in the present shown on TV is, well, revolutionary, but it seems to be dragging its feet.
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People who added this item 122 Average listal rating (62 ratings) 7.6 IMDB Rating 8
This show inspires you to want to binge watch it. Robots with feelings, you know the drill. But I think it's unique in the fatalism it gives to its human characters: What's the point of studying to become a doctor if a machine could do it better? You're obsolete. It would be nice if this more emotional aspect of the robot story was explored.
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People who added this item 139 Average listal rating (46 ratings) 7.1 IMDB Rating 7.2
Janet Montgomery makes this show. She's a great actress. I think most everyone else is poorly casted, especially Shane West. It's kind of soap opery in parts. Basically anti-hero evil witches work to bring the devil to a Puritan Salem. They eat your flesh, get their power from sex, bathe in your blood, have familiars that cannibalize them. You know how it is.
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People who added this item 142 Average listal rating (65 ratings) 6.9 IMDB Rating 7
The acting is pretty shaky and it's a bit amateurish in the beginning but it improves over the episodes as it gets into gear. Really the bests parts of the show are its humorous moments and they make it well worth watching.
Follows the people of a town called Defiance years in the future after aliens of different species have come to live on earth.
Never thought I'd find myself liking so many of the characters.
But then it kills of a bunch of them and by season 3 I'm just kind of meh.
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People who added this item 381 Average listal rating (214 ratings) 7.6 IMDB Rating 8.7
First half of the first season is masterpiece. Then quality goes down. The knowledge that Tim and Lyla dont end up together rips out my heart and reminds me that shipping with these bastards is not healthy.
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People who added this item 104 Average listal rating (51 ratings) 7.1 IMDB Rating 7.5
First episode not very special and main guy not very distinguishable but I love Jaimie Alexander so we'll see. Not interesting enough to keep my attention.
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People who added this item 144 Average listal rating (73 ratings) 6.3 IMDB Rating 7.1
The cast attracted me to this of course but 1) I am not into slasher crap. I like shows like American Horror Story for the other things they have to offer and I prefer my scares psychological rather than gross. 2) If you want to watch horrible, bigoted people being horrible and bigoted this is the show for you. There may be some entertainment value in watching them be so openly, explicitly awful human beings but it's tiring fast. Wish I could get the hour of my life back.
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People who added this item 297 Average listal rating (147 ratings) 7.7 IMDB Rating 8.1
My love for this show is great and deep at times and at others I am bored.
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People who added this item 402 Average listal rating (246 ratings) 7.6 IMDB Rating 8.1
The storyline for season one could've been better but it's well casted and acted. Has a pretty nice mood too.
One of the things that continuously surprises and amazes me is JJ's compassion. She has such a rough exterior but where I'm so used to in other TV people taking for granted casualties, JJ tries to save every single person to a fault. She tries to save every life even when you would find it morally excusable to give one for the many. There are numerous murders but she cares, they're not faceless deaths. Her trying to keep Kilgrave alive makes sense then no matter how frustrating it is because she is actually rather a little naive and optimistic herself. Her 'leave no one behind' stance is refreshing, but can be so frustrating to watch when you know how easy it would be just to give a few for the many.
Plot holes: Why did they not think of plugging their ears before the last episode? Plus, JJ should have just gone into the woods and lured him there; less casualties. It wouldn't be running away, just creating a safer face-off space. And no matter Luke's issues with Jessica, he should have been brought in sooner. Her not wanting to involve him is again her trying to save every one which leads to more lives being endangered in reality. + Why is Simspon so obsessed with killing Kilgrave?
Think it would have been a nice twist, though they didn't really do it, to have a psycho claim to be Killgraved but then actually just be a psycho.
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Very informative, US centric.
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People who added this item 469 Average listal rating (259 ratings) 7.3 IMDB Rating 7.7
When I first watched it I think I judged it too harshly for it's gimmicky intro. The intro really doesn't work but it seems to be done by a different team than the rest of the show. And the oversexualization of (mostly) Nikita is ridiculous and again gimmicky feeling. But otherwise great spy action story. Good chemistry. Well cast. A few times the acting gets borderline but there's some great stuff too. No obvious filler episodes at least in the first season. Goes along at a nice pace.
plot holes: 1) lack of cameras. 2) alex's recalcitrant expressions not setting off any red flags.
-More filler towards mid-end of S1 but always with some character development.
-1x16- michael finds out and its golden.
-The actress who plays Alex would make a good robot, just in the scenes where she's hiding her emotions, she's very good at it.
-Michael really isn't a very moral character. He only cares about the harm division has done when it comes back to himself.
-why not use tranq.s on divisdion agents if not trying to take out little men?
-Shaky writing in season 2 but still enjoyable.
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-Doesn't take itself that seriously. Kind of silly/campy in Xena style. Good ships.
-Ugh please let it get many more seasons. I need more Annamis and for it to get more developed. And I need Porthos to get a ship.
-Season 3 will be a change from the evil corrupt person whispering in king's ear ruining everything plot. It will be interesting. Have to say wouldn't mind more casual episodes of the musketeers helping people, with character and ship development of course.
-And more complaining about Annamis being underdeveloped: shown having very few interactions and yet kiss suddenly in 2x4. In 1x9 he's just basically had a relationship breakup with his great love and from 1x1 as well and it's just poorly edited timing if we're supposed to believe he just suddenly jumps from one to the other.
-Why would they work for the evil cardinal, even though know he killed his friends and treats them as expendable. In another show they would be rebelling or unionizing.
-Bothers me how the queen is in the beginning of the season. She's in scenes but doesnt say a word, like a prop. I really need her to be featured more. She's a great actress/character.
-Some iffy writing plot holes. Too many to go into. Like in 1x10, Aramis praising the queen's judgement right after pardoning the Cardinal who has killed a whole bunch of people including his friends and attempted to kill her. Blind mercy on her part maybe or a bit of unethical strategizing for France. And Aramis's acting as if they shouldn't look for the reason behind their orders after realizing what happened to his friends? And again in 2x1- actually praying for god's mercy for the cardinal??
-Comedic moments. So much side eyeing in this show.
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When I read a review saying it lacked likeable characters I was like nahh, I've liked fictional murderers before, it's fine. But no, really. All the characters are horrible people and though a part of me liked the whole Philip-Vera thing, they all really got what they deserved. I guess it will make a mystery for the cops that find it but the ending leaves me feeling like... what was the point really? Definitely felt creepy at parts and it's well acted. Don't understand why they wouldn't stay together or build a life raft or why two deaths in one night didn't feel more than coincidental to them in the beginning.
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Very realistic portrayal of relationships with the occasional hilarious moment. New favorite show.
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People who added this item 90 Average listal rating (41 ratings) 6.9 IMDB Rating 7.5
Season 3 has been so damn good. That scene in 3x3 where they confess their feelings to each other back to back to a slow version of "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", their "so" "so" match.
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People who added this item 109 Average listal rating (61 ratings) 6.7 IMDB Rating 7.4
Feel like this show's been getting worse. I love the emotionality of Marty looking into the camera, his monologues. The show is well-acted, good chemistry. Bitter, confident, cursing, a bit morally questionable characters. But they're made too unlikeable to the point of no sympathy. Lots of casual sexism, lots. Don't really know why I watch any more. For the actors basically.
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People who added this item 257 Average listal rating (143 ratings) 7 IMDB Rating 7.6
Despite the repetitive drama drama, the lack of communication (with so many one liner storm offs) and the romanticization of highschool, this show has actually really authentic moments, an endearing 'awkward' theme, and cute slang... But weirdness with the writing in the last season. The scene where Jenna tells Matty she loves him but she's scared how he'll affect things if he comes there/she doesn't want him there was so good. It was painful and honest and no one was really at fault; it was just hard. But then it somehow gets turned into Jenna just doing it for Matty's good and not letting him run away, which is might have been in part, but I think it makes it too easy. + That scene where they were spending their last moments together in the car just felt really true to life, beautiful, sad.
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People who added this item 32 Average listal rating (10 ratings) 6.6 IMDB Rating 7.4
It's actually quite original. Best when it's about the family dynamics once a husband starts having doubts about his faith in a global warming inspired neoreligion. Some good acting. Idk if the husband is supposed to be the lead but the wife steals the show. There's also added forbidden love drama with the son and an old flame connection between the wife and the religion's leader. Likely to be cancelled unfortunately. I think they erred when they went for the shock factor of making him a murderer, but we'll see where it goes.
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Very well acted but too much soap opera, jealousies over her coming back (the once boyfriend's wife, the cop's partner, the sister's fiance) etc. The type of drama that doesn't feel meaningful but shallow.
-Richard Rankin is so pretty in this. Damn that accent.
-I had no idea Jodie Comer was such a good actress. But also ugh, every time it shows her fingers being fingerprinted it's like looking at bones she's so skinny.
-There is a reoccuring victim blaming theme that feels done up to create suspense over her motives but is really absolute ignorance over how trauma works.
-Seriously every actor is well cast. Except the bad guy; that is too much creepy.
-Ends very suddenly with a lot of loose ends in the relationships. Thought there would be another episode to tie things up but no. Can't really recommend it.
-But the actor chemistry was good and Richard Rankin.
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1x1 was hilarious. Haven't laughed so much in a while.
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Dark, quirky humor, but slow.
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People who added this item 101 Average listal rating (61 ratings) 7.6 IMDB Rating 8.2
1) As a woman I can't even tell you how depressing it is to see another male-centric, male dominated sci-fi world which depicts its dystopian seediness through more male bullshit.
2) The longer hair suits Joel Kinnaman extremely well. He's somehow gotten hotter than in The Killing?? + That soft voice of his. Glad he got a leading role.
3) Appreciate the multiculturalism.
1x4: Weird that she would prioritize denying that she knew him over the whole mass-killing thing. But also the beginning of the ship so nice.
-Has a The Host kind of romance thing going on and it's v. shippable... But also technically her boyfriend isn't dead in this world so...?
-Continues in the tradition of many of its sci-fi predecessors by not really knowing the difference between explicit sex scenes and sexual chemistry, 'cause nobody wants to watch bodies just slap against each other. Not as bad as others shows have been though.
-Joel Kinnaman's expressions are great.
-He could of made her go away by telling her the truth but he decided to totally push her away.
-That Quel would suddenly reveal she's against immortality and have it be suddenly taken well... just feels like bad writing.
-Kovacs was an asshole to his sister. Like you can see when he doesn't include her in the group that he 'ever' loved and lost, his his willingness to die without a thought of her for his 'family' etc. Def weirdness going on there. But she's obviously crazy too. This makes the root of the show a dysfunctional sibling relationship, one where you don't fully understand the logic of their actions bc they're fucking crazy. And when your baseline story is a soap opery weirdness, it's hard to take the rest seriously as good writing.
-Depicts a lot of violence against women and yet by leaving unspoken that much of the fucked-upness in the world panders to male associated desires, basically invisibilizes it under 'crazy rich people'. (The streets advertize female prostitutes and fight rings to men and thus seem designed for men. We are introduced to a club where men go to kill women for kicks, etc. But it is never specifically portrayed as a violence against women issue, just a 'seedy' futurist world.) In an interview Dichen Lachman had good things to say about the show and how it challenged violence against women but...? The fact that we have another sci-fi show depicting a future like this shows how easy it is for writers to envision and take for granted that sexism. Whatever.
-Nice at least to see the characters react with horror to the situation.
-Has this abused woman rising from the flames into warrior story arch which is... ok ok.
-Yeah, that scene was gross. Really did not need to see. Gross ass violence.
-Has comedic moments but then cuts right into serious drama.
-Over all, just not good. Really really not good.
-I mean you could say the world corrupted the sister so that the easiest way she could see to make money and create security for her and her family was by torturing and killing other people, but like...
-It doesn't make sense from what we're shown of his character that his double would really just go and relax on a beach while everything was happening.
-The ending scene with the rich family is like- who the fuck cares.
-If I could do it again I would watch up until 1x5ish and then just stop.
-Any season 2 needs new writers.
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