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Helen, Gene and Peggy - Faces of Charlie Chaplin

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People who added this item 25 Average listal rating (22 ratings) 4.6 IMDB Rating 5.1

Role: Servant
Listed on imdb as Helen Carruthers.
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People who added this item 17 Average listal rating (16 ratings) 5.3 IMDB Rating 5.8

Role: Chambermaid
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People who added this item 23 Average listal rating (21 ratings) 5.3 IMDB Rating 5.6

Role: Spectator
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People who added this item 27 Average listal rating (19 ratings) 5.2 IMDB Rating 5.8
Laughing Gas (1914)

Role: Pretty Patient
Listed on imdb as Helen Carruthers, another listing for Gene Marsh.
Some sources suggest this is Gene Marsh.
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People who added this item 16 Average listal rating (12 ratings) 5.3 IMDB Rating 5.8

Role: Garlico's Assistant
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People who added this item 20 Average listal rating (16 ratings) 4.3 IMDB Rating 5.1
Recreation (1914)

Role: Girl in Park
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People who added this item 35 Average listal rating (26 ratings) 6.3 IMDB Rating 6

Role: Actress
Both Helen Carruthers and Gene Marsh are listed on imdb.
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People who added this item 25 Average listal rating (19 ratings) 5.6 IMDB Rating 6.1

Role: Nephew's Girlfriend
Listed on imdb as Peggy Page.
Same hat as Helen wore in Recreation?
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People who added this item 23 Average listal rating (18 ratings) 6.6 IMDB Rating 6.4
The Rounders (1914)

Role: Diner
Listed on imdb as Helen Carruthers,
a blank entry also appears for Peggy Page.
Are both in this shot? Is there such a thing as both?
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People who added this item 18 Average listal rating (14 ratings) 5.8 IMDB Rating 6.2

Role: Secretary
Listed on imdb as Peggy Page.
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People who added this item 20 Average listal rating (15 ratings) 5.4 IMDB Rating 5.5

Role: Landlady
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People who added this item 18 Average listal rating (15 ratings) 6.3 IMDB Rating 6

Role: Waitress
Listed on imdb as Peggy Page.
This one does actually look like a different person to those listed as Helen.
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People who added this item 17 Average listal rating (14 ratings) 5.9 IMDB Rating 5.7

Role: Spectator with Checkered Coat
Listed on imdb as Helen Carruthers, another credit for Gene Marsh.
Surely the coat is a clue here.
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People who added this item 21 Average listal rating (16 ratings) 6.7 IMDB Rating 6.1

Role: Miss Poor
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People who added this item 17 Average listal rating (14 ratings) 6 IMDB Rating 6.4

Role: Clarice
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People who added this item 45 Average listal rating (29 ratings) 6.4 IMDB Rating 7.1

Roles: Maid / Waitress
There are listings on imdb for Helen Carruthers and Gene Marsh.
The BFI website also has a listing for Gene Marsh,
but a DVD note later discredits that information.
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People who added this item 19 Average listal rating (16 ratings) 5.1 IMDB Rating 5.7

Role: Lover in Park
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People who added this item 16 Average listal rating (14 ratings) 5.6 IMDB Rating 5.4
Does this help clear up the mystery?.


It is suggested on one site that this is Gene Marsh,
and that she only appears in this one film...



...and that this is Peggy Page.
Role: Sum-Babee, Lowbrow's Favorite Water Maiden
Listed on imdb as Gene Marsh.

It has also been suggested that Peggy Page was simply a screen name for Helen Carruthers. We tried to work it out, we gave up. Whoever is whoever... one thing is true... lovely!
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This is a list of films featuring Charlie Chaplin that also feature either Helen Carruthers, Gene Marsh or Peggy Page. We've done this because people simply can't agree about these three names. Wherever you look, you will find different listings for who plays these roles. Even the BFI offers confused information regarding Tillie's Punctured Romance. All of these films except Dough and Dynamite are listed on the wiki page for Helen Carruthers.

Some say that Peggy Page and Helen Carruthers are one and the same, some say Peggy Page may be a screen name for her sister, some say they are different people. Gene Marsh may have appeared in one film, or as many as... oh I don't know, pick a number.

Anyway, this is a list of films starring someone lovely (except perhaps in the first picture, but we can't expect values from over 100 years ago to have been the same as they are today), enjoy.

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Posted: 1 week, 4 days ago at Dec 7 16:36
Onion... years ago I found the one little unidentified woman listed and identified as "Peggy Page" and/or "Peggy Paige" in contemporary movie fan magazines. She was Garlico's assistant in "The Property Man," Charley Chase's girlfriend in "His New Profession," and the other titles you have listed above. Gene Marsh is a totally different actress and, I too, have had a hard time proving if Peggy Paige and Helen Carruthers are one and the same. Though there is a facial resemblance between the two girls, one thing is sure, Carruthers would be 14 years of age in 1914. - Steve Rydzewski, Philadelphia, PA
Posted: 1 week, 4 days ago at Dec 7 17:16
Thanks for the information. So it seems that Gene Marsh only appeared in 'His Prehistoric Past', and all the others are Peggy Page, who may or may not have been Helen Carruthers? That was about the closest that I got, but the Helen Carruthers name threw a spanner in the works.

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