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Great Movies With Useless Franchises

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Jaws 2 (1978)
Jaws 3-D (1983)
Jaws: The Revenge (1987)

Indeed, Jaws is a masterpiece, and none of the follow-ups continue the story in any worthy way. The sequels are watchable, yes, but are more like generic shark action-thrillers than follow-ups to one of the greatest movies of all time. Jaws did not need to become a franchise.

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Psycho II (1983)
Psycho III (1986)
Psycho IV: The Beginning (1990)
Plus a remake in 1998

Psycho is a masterpiece. End of story. The story is self-contained, and everything was resolved by the end. Why oh why did they have to make a franchise out of it?! The sequels aren't outright terrible, but they never quite sit right.

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Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)
Terminator Salvation (2009)

I know I'm in the minority here, because many regard Terminator 2 as an excellent follow-up which surpasses the original. However, as a standalone movie The Terminator works far better than it does as a franchise. Terminator 2 is good but lacks the edgy, gritty tone of the original, plus it feels more family friendly and begins to stretch the credulity of the premise. As solid as T2 is, it's not worthy of The Terminator, and I wish that the first film remained a standalone feature.

Plus you just couldn't win with a follow-up anyway. Because it seems silly for SkyNet to send a Terminator to kill an aware John Connor. Why not send it back to 1983 before the first film and kill an unwitting Sarah Connor? But if that happens, then that would mean the events of the first movie never took place because whatever happened in the past due to time travel is what always happens, what with Reese conceiving John. And the sequels get sillier because the question looms...why does SkyNet stop sending Terminators back to try and kill John? Surely there's no "three kill attempts rule". See, in the first film it was established the "time displacement equipment" was destroyed after Reese went through, yeah? Why couldn't it remain destroyed? If we establish SkyNet can manufacture one in a heartbeat (it sent a Terminator through time on many occasions after the humans had won), why does it stop trying to kill John in the past? Plus because of the principle that whatever happens in the past always happened and was destined to happen, how does it make sense for them to postpone Judgment Day? That would delay the birth of Kyle Reese and mess up the timeline, and the chances that the very same spermie will get to an egg when he fucks Sarah (he'd have to be a lot older if Judgment Day was postponed) are absolutely zero. That particular spermie would probably die off anyway. THE SEQUELS MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE!!!

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The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

I doubt anyone can argue with this. The Matrix did not need any sequels, nor any continuation of any sort. The sequels ended up sucking (unsurprisingly), which further reflects the futility of the follow-ups. I only own the first movie on DVD & Blu-ray, and I consider the sequels as non-canon.

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Poltergeist II: The Other Side (1986)
Poltergeist III: The Final Chapter (1988)
Plus an upcoming remake

As a standalone movie, Poltergeist is excellent and chilling. It did not need any sequels, as they pushed things into the realm of the contrived and the incompetent. What a shame that the adorable young Heather O'Rourke died during filming of the third movie, and is thus her swansong to acting...

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The Crow: City of Angels (1996)
The Crow: Salvation (2000)
The Crow: Wicked Prayer (2005)
Plus a short-lived television series, and an upcoming remake

Upfront: no, I've never bothered with the sequels. I saw the original, and it's brilliant: self-contained, gritty, and awesome. Why the fuck does it need sequels? Why the fuck should I care?

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Highlander II: The Quickening (1991)
Highlander: The Adventure Begins (1994)
Highlander III: The Sorcerer (1994)
Highlander: Endgame (2000)
Highlander: The Source (2007)
Highlander: The Search for Vengeance (2007)
Plus a few television shows...and apparently a remake is on its way.

Uh... What else is there to say?

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Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)
Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971)
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972)
Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973)
Plus two TV shows, a 2001 remake, AND a 2011 prequel

I love Planet of the Apes. I love that it gets in there, tells its story, and ends on a heartbreaking note. It's a self-contained story which leaves an aura of mystery...and that's why I love it. We don't need to know everything about this world. It's because of this I've avoided the sequels and the TV show follow-ups...but I've certainly heard that they're subpar.

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Exorcist II: The Heretic (1977)
The Exorcist III (1990)
Plus two versions of the prequel - Exorcist: The Beginning (2004) and Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist (2005)

Do I really need to say anything?

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Halloween II (1981)
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
Halloween 5 (1989)
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
Plus a 2007 remake, AND a sequel to said remake...

I think the lengthy list of sequels, and the brilliance of this movie really says it all...

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Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)
Beverly Hills Cop III (1994)

Beverly Hills Cop did warrant sequels, I admit it. The Axel Foley character deserves his own series. It's a shame, then, that the franchise this film spawned was so incredibly subpar and unfunny.

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There are lots of great, classic movies out there which are perfect by themselves...but were tarnished by endless sequels of diminishing quality.

These movies did not need sequels. Period.

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Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 8 6:20
Very nice. The Matrix sequels lessened my appreciation for that film, honestly. Course I've always felt the original would've been perfect had it ended before the final phone-call scene.

The Apes sequels are entertaining if you have nothing better to do, but none of them are essential viewing.

And while I'll agree Halloween needed no sequels, I've enjoyed a couple of them as well as Zombie's remakes. Surprised to not see Friday the 13th on here though, as its sequels are far worse (and more numerous) than Halloween's.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 8 6:42
Except Friday the 13th was never a great or even a decent or good movie :P
Hated the original. Hated the second. Detested the third. Found the "reimagining" subpar. Far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever the fuck they want with that property, as I don't care and never have. Lol.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 8 7:54
Great list! I personally boy-cotted seeing any of the Crow sequels so was especially happy to see it included here.

Only thing I can think of that I mighta added is The Neverending Story (two sequals and a couple of television spin-offs.

Well done.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 8 7:55
Haven't seen The Neverending Story or its sequels, but I may have to investigate.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 7:52
We disagree on Friday the 13th then...fair enough. Don't remember seeing The Crow the last time I looked at this. I saw its first sequel & it was so horrid I've blocked it out of my memory (which is why my rating for it on here is zero). Indeed the first is brilliant & needs no sequels.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 8:00
Really cool list. When you think about it, actually you could add almost ANY franchises here because 99.9 % of the sequels are a waste of time...
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 10:00
While i don't agree with you on T2 at all (i think it's even better than the first), i still agree with all the rest of the films so you get my vote.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 10:12
Even though I do agree that the Psycho-franchise is a tad ridiculous and unnecessary, I do feel the need to note that Psycho II is in fact as a self-contained story/sequel very good. I actually think that if Hitch had made a slasher-film, it would have been very much like Psycho II. Anthony Perkins is also fantastic in it. After that the films do suck though.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Halloween: Nightfall is an unlicensed youtube-fan vid, and not really a part of the franchise.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 11:38
Great list.
May be Pirates of Caribbean, Alien. I can't really say because first two movies were good if not great.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 13:34
We can't all have the same opinions, eh ;)

Vieras, I appreciate your comment and your viewpoints a lot! While I have not seen Psycho II, it's the principle of the sequel I disapprove of mainly. The original just wraps everything up nicely, and I'd like to just believe that Norman wound up in therapy or in a mental institution for the rest of his life. I don't want to believe he gets better then begins killing again, or whatever happens in Psycho II. Just seems contrived and silly.

And I'll delete Nightfall from the list. It was on IMDb so I assumed it was canon... Oh well.

EDIT: Henrik, I went back and added further stuff onto my Terminator entry. Maybe it'll help you understand my position.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 19:48
i agree with those but keep in mind that when it comes to The Matrix, it was always intended to be a trilogy, the story was set like this, they didn't make the sequels just to benefit from the first film's success..
in any case, sequels rarely work if they weren't intended to begin with. REC and REC2 work just fine, Kill Bill Vol 1 and Vol 2 work fine, coz they were written as to sepret films to begin with. dont you agree?
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 17 22:16
I do kind of see your point about T2.

I might make a case for the Karate Kid franchise. The sequel completely took the emotional impact out of the first movie, imho.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 18 0:36
Doesn't matter if the Matrix was always designed to be a trilogy. The sequels were rubbish and it genuinely felt like they forced them. George Lucas always wanted to tell the Star Wars prequels since his early days when he made the original trilogy, but it doesn't make them any less of a sin.

And I'm not familiar with the Karate Kid movies.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 18 12:16
I'm really with you on the Terminator. The first movie had a nicely tied together plot. The premise of the second? Just kidding about destroying the only time machine. Oh and Arny is rich now so he wants to be the good guy. SPARE ME! Enriched special effects don't save it.

I loved Matrix and couldn't even watch the sequel through. I didn't realize that others found the same.
Posted: 7 years, 4 months ago at Feb 18 13:26
It did indeed suck seeing Arnie as a kind gentle Terminator, and the softened body count did indeed suck in T2. For me, there's only one REAL Terminator movie, and that's T1. Because in it you see Arnie as a badass of the highest order who does what the fuck he's supposed to do: TERMINATE PEOPLE! T1 is untouchable.
Posted: 7 years, 3 months ago at Feb 25 15:02
Great list!!! Terminator and Highlander are two of my "all-time" favorite movies! Definately stand alone.
Posted: 7 years, 3 months ago at Mar 13 0:14
I like most of the movies in the Halloween franchise (1 - 4 & Halloween: H20)and The Exorcist 3 is actually really good.

I agree with the rest of your picks, though.
Posted: 7 years, 3 months ago at Mar 13 3:24
all the movies are brilliant,which are the basics for many other movies
Posted: 7 years, 3 months ago at Mar 13 13:07
Good list, I agree with you in The Terminator. The first one rules!

And yeah, I haven't seen the Matrix sequels (yet) but did you hear that there is still 2 sequels to come :|
Posted: 7 years, 3 months ago at Mar 13 16:21
Exorcist III was a superior horror film.
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 3 19:23
I love the Halloween movies, minus Halloween 3, Resurrection, The Curse, and Rob Zombie's sequal. I guess I enjoy Michael Myers creepyness
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 3 20:32
With the exception of Terminator,
I agree with your picks.
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 3 22:27
I recommend you go back and read exactly why I put Terminator on here. With sequels, the franchise makes no sense.
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 3 23:02
You must never add Godzilla to this list.
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 4 15:34
What about Hellraiser?
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 5 0:18
Couldn't agree with you more! Great list! xx
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 5 6:49
*I agree on JAWS
*I actually liked PSYCHO 2, but yeah the other ones aren't good
*I think all of the TERMINATOR films are entertaining, even 3 and 4, despite not being on the same level as their predocessors and continue a story that probably did not need to be continued
*I'll be the heretic here and say that I liked the MATRIX sequels. And whether or not the first film needed sequels I guess depends on your interpretation of the ending.
*I've only seen the first POLTERGEIST
*THE CROW is on my list of films I need to see
*I agree on HIGHLANDER, though I did find ENDGAME to be a bit of fun and I really liked the television show.
*I actually don't mind EXORCIST III or DOMINION, but neither reaches the greatness of the original
*When it comes to HALLOWEEN I actually really like Part 2, RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS, and H20.
*I've only seen the first BEVERLY HILLS COP
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 9 1:23
I totally agree on The Highlander. The original movie was a self-contained story and they should have left it there. I thoroughly enjoyed the first movie.

When it became popular on cable and at the video stores, Hollywood was eager to cash in with a sequel. Chris Lambert refused to return for a second installment unless his co-star Sean Connery was in it. This led the screenwriters scrambling to come up with a way to explain the return of a character that was killed in the first movie.

The result was a convoluted story re-casting the immortals as aliens from another planet. Then came the third movie that discounted much of the second movie. You had to pretend the events in the second movie never happened. It just got more crazy after that. The TV show wasn't even about Conner anymore, but I have to admit, I never really watched the TV series. It may have been entertaining.

It sounds kind of ludicrous to say that a movie about battling immortals that live forever and cannot die became too unbelievable in later installments, but that is exactly what happened.
Posted: 6 years, 7 months ago at Nov 9 1:32
I'm glad I never watched any of the Highlander sequels, lol. They sound awful.
Posted: 6 years, 4 months ago at Feb 15 23:03
Nah, I'm a huge Rambo fan. And while 2&3 are cartoonish action films, the fourth is a marvellous companion piece to First Blood and the first Rambo movie to adhere to the original novel's tone.
Posted: 6 years, 1 month ago at May 13 2:35
You should add Robocop to your list. The sequels (especially the third one) are terrible. It even spawned a life action TV series and two animated series as an excuse to make it into a franchise with failed results.
Posted: 5 years, 8 months ago at Sep 27 20:25
There are a lot more retarded sequel outhere, got list'em all hahaha
Posted: 5 years, 8 months ago at Sep 27 20:54
you should try Animatrix. it's kind of a prequel, but it's way beyond awesome
Posted: 5 years, 8 months ago at Sep 28 12:04
Awesome list.
Posted: 5 years, 6 months ago at Nov 24 19:26
Although I don't agree with all of your list, I'd say I agree with around half!

I be curious to know what you think of other franchises like "A Nightmare on Elm Street", "Saw", "Die Hard", "The Poseidon Adventure" and more.

Can I assume you liked all of these since their not on your list?
Posted: 5 years, 6 months ago at Nov 24 19:42
cant agree on Terminator because I think T2 was the superior movie (never saw Salvation)...definitely agree on The Matrix. It's like they simply wanted to build on the success and popularity of the original without realizing that there had to be a story worth telling.

There's also the Jurassic Park franchise where the first film was the one that shouldn't have been made.
Posted: 5 years, 6 months ago at Nov 25 2:05
All true, but yeah, T2 is definitely not useless. It's better than the first one in my opinion. Much more action-packed and better effects.
Posted: 5 years, 6 months ago at Nov 25 5:58
Agree on bout all except you crapping on Terminator 2 which is slightly psychotic (even if it isn't in the same horror/sci-fi feel of the first one) considering it's one of the most well made action flicks of all time. The original doesn't get enough love I agree but Judgement Day is a simply amazing piece of what action cinema can be. And the Exorcist 3 is scarier than the overrated original. The Exorcist isn't scary, it's just silly.

Jurassic Park should be on this list, Nightmare on Elm Street should stay off it cause 3 and 4 are great. And oh yeah, I could watch any of the Jaws sequels at any time, they're bad but entertaining as hell.
Posted: 5 years, 6 months ago at Nov 25 7:08
I still have no regret about placing Terminator on this list. T2 was not all that, and those that are questioning me, please read the entry and the logic behind it. T1 is the only true Terminator film in my books.
Posted: 3 years, 4 months ago at Feb 10 23:36
This list is so relevant now with the on-going sequels, remake, reboots, let's-do-it-again cash grabs which Hollywood are churning out almost weekly. Nicely done (although I think T2 is a masterpiece heh heh) :)
Posted: 3 years, 4 months ago at Feb 11 1:15
Rocky and Rambo should be in this list too.

And Die Hard.
Posted: 3 years, 4 months ago at Feb 11 1:57
Rocky and Rambo should be in this list too.

Nup, I love all Rocky films except for V, and I adore all four Rambo movies, especially the fourth one.
And Die Hard.

Die Hard 2&3 are masterpieces.

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