Great Movies With Useless Franchises
![]() Follow-Ups: Jaws 2 (1978) Jaws 3-D (1983) Jaws: The Revenge (1987) Indeed, Jaws is a masterpiece, and none of the follow-ups continue the story in any worthy way. The sequels are watchable, yes, but are more like generic shark action-thrillers than follow-ups to one of the greatest movies of all time. Jaws did not need to become a franchise. PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Psycho II (1983) Psycho III (1986) Psycho IV: The Beginning (1990) Plus a remake in 1998 Psycho is a masterpiece. End of story. The story is self-contained, and everything was resolved by the end. Why oh why did they have to make a franchise out of it?! There is only one real Psycho movie. PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) Terminator Salvation (2009) I know I'm in the minority here, because many regard Terminator 2 as an excellent follow-up which surpasses the original. However, as a standalone movie The Terminator works far better than it does as a franchise. Terminator 2 is good but lacks the edgy, gritty tone of the original, plus it feels more family friendly and begins to stretch the credulity of the premise. As solid as T2 is, it's not worthy of The Terminator, and I wish that the first film remained a standalone feature. PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: The Matrix Reloaded (2003) The Matrix Revolutions (2003) I doubt anyone can argue with this. The Matrix did not need any sequels, nor any continuation of any sort. The sequels ended up sucking (unsurprisingly), which further reflects the futility of the follow-ups. I only own the first movie on DVD & Blu-ray, and I consider the sequels as non-canon. PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Poltergeist II: The Other Side (1986) Poltergeist III: The Final Chapter (1988) Plus an upcoming remake As a standalone movie, Poltergeist is excellent and chilling. It did not need any sequels, as they pushed things into the realm of the contrived and the incompetent. What a shame that the adorable young Heather O'Rourke died during filming of the third movie, and is thus her swansong to acting... PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: The Crow: City of Angels (1996) The Crow: Salvation (2000) The Crow: Wicked Prayer (2005) Plus a short-lived television series, and an upcoming remake Upfront: no, I've never bothered with the sequels. I saw the original, and it's brilliant: self-contained, gritty, and awesome. Why the fuck does it need sequels? Why the fuck should I care? PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Highlander II: The Quickening (1991) Highlander: The Adventure Begins (1994) Highlander III: The Sorcerer (1994) Highlander: Endgame (2000) Highlander: The Source (2007) Highlander: The Search for Vengeance (2007) Plus a few television shows...and apparently a remake is on its way. Uh... What else is there to say? PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971) Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973) Plus two TV shows, a 2001 remake, AND a 2011 prequel I love Planet of the Apes. I love that it gets in there, tells its story, and ends on a heartbreaking note. It's a self-contained story which leaves an aura of mystery...and that's why I love it. We don't need to know everything about this world. It's because of this I've avoided the sequels and the TV show follow-ups...but I've certainly heard that they're subpar. PvtCaboose91's rating:
![]() Follow-Ups: Halloween II (1981) Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982) Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988) Halloween 5 (1989) Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995) Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998) Halloween: Resurrection (2002) Plus a 2007 remake, AND a sequel to said remake... I think the lengthy list of sequels, and the brilliance of this movie really says it all... PvtCaboose91's rating:
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The Apes sequels are entertaining if you have nothing better to do, but none of them are essential viewing.
And while I'll agree Halloween needed no sequels, I've enjoyed a couple of them as well as Zombie's remakes. Surprised to not see Friday the 13th on here though, as its sequels are far worse (and more numerous) than Halloween's.
Hated the original. Hated the second. Detested the third. Found the "reimagining" subpar. Far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever the fuck they want with that property, as I don't care and never have. Lol.
Only thing I can think of that I mighta added is The Neverending Story (two sequals and a couple of television spin-offs.
Well done.
EDIT: Oh yeah, Halloween: Nightfall is an unlicensed youtube-fan vid, and not really a part of the franchise.
May be Pirates of Caribbean, Alien. I can't really say because first two movies were good if not great.
Vieras, I appreciate your comment and your viewpoints a lot! While I have not seen Psycho II, it's the principle of the sequel I disapprove of mainly. The original just wraps everything up nicely, and I'd like to just believe that Norman wound up in therapy or in a mental institution for the rest of his life. I don't want to believe he gets better then begins killing again, or whatever happens in Psycho II. Just seems contrived and silly.
And I'll delete Nightfall from the list. It was on IMDb so I assumed it was canon... Oh well.
EDIT: Henrik, I went back and added further stuff onto my Terminator entry. Maybe it'll help you understand my position.
in any case, sequels rarely work if they weren't intended to begin with. REC and REC2 work just fine, Kill Bill Vol 1 and Vol 2 work fine, coz they were written as to sepret films to begin with. dont you agree?
I might make a case for the Karate Kid franchise. The sequel completely took the emotional impact out of the first movie, imho.
And I'm not familiar with the Karate Kid movies.
I loved Matrix and couldn't even watch the sequel through. I didn't realize that others found the same.
I agree with the rest of your picks, though.
And yeah, I haven't seen the Matrix sequels (yet) but did you hear that there is still 2 sequels to come :|
I agree with your picks.
*I actually liked PSYCHO 2, but yeah the other ones aren't good
*I think all of the TERMINATOR films are entertaining, even 3 and 4, despite not being on the same level as their predocessors and continue a story that probably did not need to be continued
*I'll be the heretic here and say that I liked the MATRIX sequels. And whether or not the first film needed sequels I guess depends on your interpretation of the ending.
*I've only seen the first POLTERGEIST
*THE CROW is on my list of films I need to see
*I agree on HIGHLANDER, though I did find ENDGAME to be a bit of fun and I really liked the television show.
*I like ESCAPE and CONQUEST.
*I actually don't mind EXORCIST III or DOMINION, but neither reaches the greatness of the original
*When it comes to HALLOWEEN I actually really like Part 2, RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS, and H20.
*I've only seen the first BEVERLY HILLS COP
When it became popular on cable and at the video stores, Hollywood was eager to cash in with a sequel. Chris Lambert refused to return for a second installment unless his co-star Sean Connery was in it. This led the screenwriters scrambling to come up with a way to explain the return of a character that was killed in the first movie.
The result was a convoluted story re-casting the immortals as aliens from another planet. Then came the third movie that discounted much of the second movie. You had to pretend the events in the second movie never happened. It just got more crazy after that. The TV show wasn't even about Conner anymore, but I have to admit, I never really watched the TV series. It may have been entertaining.
It sounds kind of ludicrous to say that a movie about battling immortals that live forever and cannot die became too unbelievable in later installments, but that is exactly what happened.
EDIT: You could also add Rambo to this.
I be curious to know what you think of other franchises like "A Nightmare on Elm Street", "Saw", "Die Hard", "The Poseidon Adventure" and more.
Can I assume you liked all of these since their not on your list?
There's also the Jurassic Park franchise where the first film was the one that shouldn't have been made.
I also agree with the previous poster, that Jurassic Park could be added.
Jurassic Park should be on this list, Nightmare on Elm Street should stay off it cause 3 and 4 are great. And oh yeah, I could watch any of the Jaws sequels at any time, they're bad but entertaining as hell.