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on 26 Jan 2011 10:50

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2D or not 2D?

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CGI is becoming easier to do than 2D animation, despite it still existing in anime, ads, cartoons and even some Disney movies. So we're getting many characters changed into CGI, like Mickey Mouse, Winnie-the-Pooh, Tinkerbell, Road Runner and Punchy. They've been CG'd before, mainly in video games, but sometimes it makes them too realistic. Take Jeeves, the Vlasic Stork and the Silentnight characters for example. Because CGI is becoming easier to use, ads are rushed in CGI, and often made into an Alvin and the Chipmunks style. Might be due to the Nielsen ratings on live-action ads being more effective than animation. And saying the name of Alvin and the Chipmunks brings me to this list.

Due to the popularity of CGI, and the fact that Robin Williams' Popeye was released in the early 80's, people are doing to cartoon/fantasy comic creatures what Steven Spielberg did to Dino - give them the 'CG Eyes'. Although a movie adaptation of The Smurfs had been in development when Scooby-Doo was released, Alvin boosted the craze to make it go too far. And I say it goes too far because none of these films are critical successes. Here's my comparsions between the old and the new, to see what I really think of the designs and their personalities.
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1. Howard the Duck (1986)
Howard T. Duck



VOICE ACTOR: Chip Zien
POSITIVE: He's a puppet/suit. But then again, this was the 80's.
NEGATIVE: Human-like eyes, pro-bestiality message is more effective, not nearly as angry, high on duck puns
FAITH FACTOR: 4/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 6/10
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People who added this item 1297  Average listal rating (814 ratings) 6.1  IMDB Rating 6.7 
2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
Raphael, Michaelangelo, Donatello, Leonardo



VOICE ACTORS: Josh Pais, Robbie Rist, Corey Feldman, Brian Tochi
POSITIVE: Made by Jim Henson’s Creature Shop, same attitude, same charm
NEGATIVE: Often weak facial expressions. That's all I can say.
FAITH FACTOR: 9/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 4/10

People who added this item 2110  Average listal rating (1295 ratings) 4.7  IMDB Rating 4.8 
3. The Flintstones (1994)
Dino



VOICE ACTOR: Mel Blanc (recordings taken from original TV show)
POSITIVE: Was a puppet made by Jim Henson’s Creature Shop in the first movie
NEGATIVE: Reason for all future talking animals having bug-eyes
FAITH FACTOR: 8/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 5/10
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4. Casper (1995)
Casper and the Ghostly Trio



VOICE ACTORS: Malachi Pearson, Joe Nipote, Joe Alaskey, Brad Garrett
POSITIVE: Ghosts look more diverse than their older counterparts
NEGATIVE: All the ghosts happen to be cartoonish, all of them
FAITH FACTOR: 9/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 2/10
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5. George of the Jungle (1997)
An Ape Named Ape



VOICE ACTOR: John Cleese
POSITIVE: Jim Henson again, tamer than the other realistic renditions
NEGATIVE: John Cleese shines but deserves better
FAITH FACTOR: 8/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 2/10
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6. Baby Huey's Great Easter Adventure (1999)
Baby Huey



VOICE ACTOR: Unknown
POSITIVE: They got the design right
NEGATIVE: Should've been a theme park walkaround
FAITH FACTOR: 9/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 3/10

People who added this item 310  Average listal rating (199 ratings) 4.4  IMDB Rating 4.1 
7. The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000)
Rocky and Bullwinkle



VOICE ACTORS: June Foray, Keith Scott
POSITIVE: Considering that these characters had been transported outside the cartoon world, they stay completely true to their designs. Also, Rocky is still voiced by June Foray.
NEGATIVE: There was a weasel in the movie who was 2D animated, so why not these guys?
FAITH FACTOR: 9/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 1/10
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8. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)
The Grinch



ACTOR: Jim Carrey
POSITIVE: Very neat make-up, creeped me out as a child which makes him very effective, it's Jim Carrey!
NEGATIVE: Jim Carrey's absurdity might be too much for some
FAITH FACTOR: 6/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: Ugly like a Grinch should be.
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Damn you, Rhytmn and Hues

People who added this item 1801  Average listal rating (1113 ratings) 4.8  IMDB Rating 4.9 
9. Scooby-Doo (2002)
Scooby-Doo



VOICE ACTOR: Neil Fanning
POSITIVE: Most of the design is accurate, spot-on voicework
NEGATIVE: Bug-eyes, fart jokes, Scrappy Doo (Scott Innes) urinates on someone
FACT: In Looney Tunes: Back in Action, the 2D Scooby and Shaggy complained to Matthew Lillard about his performance in the movie.
FAITH FACTOR: 4/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 8/10
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People who added this item 952  Average listal rating (587 ratings) 4.1  IMDB Rating 3.7 
10. The Cat in the Hat (2003)
The Cat



ACTOR: Mike Myers
POSITIVE: Very neat make-up, wouldn't frighten children as much as the Grinch
NEGATIVE: Way too Austin Powers to be true
FAITH FACTOR: 2/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 5/10

The Fish



VOICE ACTOR: Sean Hayes
POSITIVE: In better character than the Cat
NEGATIVE: Bug eyes, no explanation for sudden change of appearance
FAITH FACTOR: 6/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 9/10
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11. Garfield (2004)
Garfield



VOICE ACTOR: Bill Murray
POSITIVE: Eyes aren’t as bug-like
NEGATIVE: Other characters don’t look the same, fart jokes, unfunny
FACT: Bill Murray hated his job voicing Garfield so much that he said that it was his one regret in his Zombieland cameo. Never have a name that matches a better writer, and this goes to you, Joel Cohen.
FAITH FACTOR: 5/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 2/10
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People who added this item 212  Average listal rating (118 ratings) 4.6  IMDB Rating 4.8 
12. Underdog (2007)
Underdog



VOICE ACTOR: Jason Lee
POSITIVE: Clips from the original cartoon appear at the beginning.
NEGATIVE: Not the same character, looks ridiculous, way too realistic, can be either live-action or CGI.
FAITH FACTOR: 2/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 9/10
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People who added this item 872  Average listal rating (533 ratings) 5.2  IMDB Rating 5.3 
13. Alvin and the Chipmunks (2007)
The Chipmunks



VOICE ACTORS: Justin Long/Ross Bagdasarian Jr., Matthew Gray Gubler/Steve Vining, Jesse McCartney/Janice Karman
POSITIVE: Their cuteness kind of improves in the sequel, you can actually tell that they are chipmunks this time, their songs can get pretty catchy...
NEGATIVE: Hoodies, bug-eyes, fart jokes, every picture of Alvin uses the same face
FACT: This movie was such a financial (if not critical) success that it was the real reason why we got the Yogi Bear movie.
FAITH FACTOR: 4/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 5-7/10
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14. Scooby-Doo! The Mystery Begins (2009)
Scooby-Doo



VOICE ACTOR: Frank Welker
POSITIVE: Less ugly than the last one, and more true to the design. Also, this didn’t stop Scooby from being 2D forever.
NEGATIVE: Still involves in fart jokes.
FAITH FACTOR: 6/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 2/10

People who added this item 434  Average listal rating (244 ratings) 5.1  IMDB Rating 4.4 
15. Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel (2009)
The Chipettes



VOICE ACTRESSES: Amy Poehler/Courtney Galiano, Anna Faris, Christina Applegate
POSITIVE: More face poses in the marketing, sometimes kinda cute, and too girlish for fart jokes. Also, Miley Cyrus rejected her role.
NEGATIVE: Still have the bug-eyes and modern culture. Also appeared in the nude, which unlike the male chipmunks could be an excuse for more porn.
FACT: Little Alvin and the Mini-Munks was a live-action Alvin and the Chipmunks movie that was released direct-to-video, but that one had puppets that were actually faithful.
FAITH FACTOR: 5/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 5/10
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People who added this item 182  Average listal rating (108 ratings) 4.2  IMDB Rating 4.1 
16. Marmaduke (2010)
Marmaduke



VOICE ACTOR: Owen Wilson
POSITIVE: Proves a better reason why it makes sense for a cartoon character to stay as one when being converted to CGI.
NEGATIVE: The original Marmaduke never talked, made friends, farted, danced, surfed or even wore sunglasses!
FAITH FACTOR: 0/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 10/10
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People who added this item 954  Average listal rating (590 ratings) 4.5  IMDB Rating 4.4 
17. The Last Airbender (2010)
Appa and Momo



VOICE ACTOR: Dee Bradley Baker
POSITIVE: Exactly the same as the originals, only Appa's eyes are more realistic
NEGATIVE: M. Night Shamaylan
FAITH FACTOR: 10/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 3/10
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18. Yogi Bear (2010)
Yogi and Boo-Boo



VOICE ACTORS: Dan Ankroyd, Justin Timberlake
POSITIVE: Mostly equal to the original designs, Justin Timberlake sounds exactly like Boo-Boo, unchanged personalities
NEGATIVE: Bug-eyes, Dan Ankroyd isn’t perfect as Yogi, Yogi dances to hip-hop, Yogi makes a pee joke, most of the marketing has only one face pose for both bears
FAITH FACTOR: 7/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 7/10
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People who added this item 531  Average listal rating (294 ratings) 5.4  IMDB Rating 5.5 
19. The Smurfs (2011)
The Smurfs



VOICE ACTORS: Jonathan Winters, Katy Perry, Alan Cumming, Anton Yelchin, Fred Armisen, George Lopez, Gary Basaraba, John Oliver, Paul Reubens, Kenan Thompson, B. J. Novak, Jeff Foxworthy, Wolfgang Puck
POSITIVE: Keeps the original designs, some Smurfs actually look Disney-ish and cute, casting of Jonathan Winters (originally Grandpa Smurf), two interesting new Smurfs (Panicky and Gutsy)
NEGATIVE: Eyes can get too realistic, Greedy Smurf seems pretty racist due to his voice casting, George Lopez has never had a good movie (except Rio), Katy Perry, had to end up like Giselle in New York, raunchy/crude humour including fart jokes (spoken) and a joke that's supposedly about pubic hair, product placement is so far up the wazoo that Grouchy develops a crush on Ms. Green
FAITH FACTOR: 3/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 3-7/10
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20. Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014)
Mr. Peabody & Sherman



VOICE ACTORS: Ty Burrell and Max Charles
POSITIVE: Completely animated, still cartoony, actually cute, touching father-adopted son relationship, story does not suck, the crew "pretended the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie didn't exist"
NEGATIVE: Occasional rude humour (invention involving cow gas, "not water", "you said booby")
FAITH FACTOR: 8/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 2/10
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21. Hong Kong Phooey
Hong Kong Phooey



VOICE ACTOR: Eddie Murphy
POSITIVE: It's probably not getting made
NEGATIVE: Annoying, does not sound like Scatman Crothers, typical "dog drinking out of the toilet" jokes, eats a urine-covered mint
FAITH FACTOR: 1/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 8/10

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22. Marvin the Martian
Marvin the Martian



VOICE ACTOR: Mike Myers
POSITIVE: Voice is dead-on, eyes are still cartoony
NEGATIVE: Not funny, makes a testicle joke
FAITH FACTOR: 8/10
UGLINESS FACTOR: 1/10

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23. Mighty Mouse
Mighty Mouse



VOICE ACTOR: TBA
POSITIVE: The movie will be completely animated, has a new logo on his chest
NEGATIVE: Bug-eyes, lost a slightly more faithful design, CGI ‘tude, looks like The Tale of Desperaux on crack
FAITH FACTOR: N/A
UGLINESS FACTOR: 7/10


And the winner for Most Unfaithful Adaptation is..

MARMADUKE

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24. Heathcliff (1980)
This guy's getting a movie, too.

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25. Chip an' Dale (1947)
So are these.


 

As a spin-off from my "Why childhood is facing extinction" list, here's a list that decides which talking animal movie is the least faithful to its original, hand-drawn source.

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Comments

Posted: 3 years, 6 months ago at Mar 4 6:05
Excellently done list. Seeing Mighty Mouse like that depresses me.
Posted: 3 years, 6 months ago at Mar 5 0:06
Thanks. I'm currently doing a fan fic about the Toons' feud with the "Antitoons", which takes place in the Roger Rabbit universe. No cruddy pairings included.
Posted: 3 years, 5 months ago at Mar 27 10:03
I tink 2D suits most of them better than "3D", the lately hype about 3D is ruining many cartoons..
Posted: 3 years, 5 months ago at Mar 27 10:24
Greaaaaat list.!!! very creative :)
Posted: 3 years, 5 months ago at Mar 27 10:39
Great work!

I think the main issue is that the CGI animated movies are just too popular.

On one hand, you have Disney with all their last attempts to produce a traditional 2d animated movies were failures (The Princess and the Frog, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Brother bear,...) whereas some of them were actually pretty good.

And on the other hand, there are many average CGI movies produced by various studios(see above) which makes a huge profit and that's why they keep making them one after the other.

I think they will stop only when the viewers start to loose interest in those pictures (that's what happened with the traditionally 2d animated movies). It is the same thing with the whole 3D craze, the quality is actually pretty poor but the viewers keep showing everytime... In the mean time, we'll have to endure all those average crappy movies....
Posted: 3 years, 5 months ago at Mar 27 16:27
excellent job! ♥
Posted: 3 years, 3 months ago at Jun 7 15:12
not Heathcliff

he my no.1 fav cat
Posted: 3 years, 2 months ago at Jul 15 22:28
I thought Rio was a good movie and George Lopez was in it.

EDIT: Never mind. I found out this list came out before Rio hit theaters.
Posted: 2 years, 8 months ago at Jan 18 23:00
The faith factor on the Cat deserves a ZERO for penis licking jokes, the car being named S.H.I.T., the Cat almost saying "bitch", and for having all that be based on a harmless, kid friendly book. It is an abomination to cinema.
Posted: 2 years, 3 months ago at Jun 7 7:28
2D definitely for me. old animation with which many of us have beautiful memories should not be touched. great list
Posted: 2 years, 3 months ago at Jun 7 7:37
Some are creepy in 3D.
Posted: 2 years, 3 months ago at Jun 7 14:29
Cool !
Posted: 2 years, 3 months ago at Jun 7 15:20
2D! 2D! 2D! ;)
Posted: 2 years, 3 months ago at Jun 9 12:05
Ninja Turtles was the best.
Posted: 1 year, 8 months ago at Jan 7 6:31
The only one that I like better in CGI the Grinch other than that the rest are way better in 2D. I'm very excited that people are bringing back Heatcliff back into the lime light, but I'm afraid they are going to ruin him to.

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