Update feed http://www.listal.com/feed/movies/type:postreview en-us Tue, 31 May 2016 14:09:48 GMT Tue, 31 May 2016 14:09:48 GMT Listal.com johanlefourbe posted a review of East is East <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11878449'>An average movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/east-is-east'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/1149748/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;For some reasons, I actually ended up watching this flick in the movie theater when it was released and I wonder what made me choose this movie at the time. I guess, back in those days, I was watching maybe 3 movies every week in the movie theater so I wasn’t exactly really picky. Anyway, to be ho&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11878449'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Tue, 31 May 2016 09:23:06 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11878449 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11878449 BAMF posted a review of Never Back Down: No Surrender <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11875600'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/never-back-down-no-surrender'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/11602188/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I didn't even know they were making a third one of these. The way these are going though reminds me of the Undisputed series. The first one barely has any relation to the second one. Then a supporting character of the second one ends up as the main character of the third one. It's a bit silly if you&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11875600'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Mon, 30 May 2016 23:25:51 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11875600 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11875600 johanlefourbe posted a review of Entrapment <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871925'>An average movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/entrapment-1999'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/4259/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;On paper, this movie should have been a massive guilty pleasure for me. Indeed, I always had a weak spot for the heist genre and to have the sexy Catherine Zeta-Jones and the charismatic Sean Connery working together seemed like a great idea. However, unfortunately, even though all the ingredients w&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871925'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Mon, 30 May 2016 11:19:46 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871925 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871925 johanlefourbe posted a review of The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871734'>An average movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-englishman-who-went-up-a-hill-but-came-down-a-mountain'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/3116545/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Since I always had a weak spot for Hugh Grant, I was quite eager to check this movie. Basically, ever since the massive success of ‘Four Weddings and a Funeral’, Hugh Grant became a big star and the king of the romantic-comedy. Indeed, most of his following movies would be in this genre and he w&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871734'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Mon, 30 May 2016 09:30:23 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871734 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11871734 johanlefourbe posted a review of Oldboy <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869348'>An average movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/old-boy'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/8430773/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;The lack of of originality in the  American cinema nowadays is just really sad and, instead of coming up with something new,  they keep giving us some endless sequels and they are ready to remake pretty much anything at this point. From all these remakes, this must be the weirdest one and definite&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869348'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sun, 29 May 2016 21:38:44 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869348 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869348 BAMF posted a review of Hardcore Henry <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869218'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/hardcore-2015'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/9996013/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I have been wanting to see this. I like the creativity of the whole thing. Besides I get a kick out of found footage. So when I saw they were doing a first person perspective type a thing I thought it was a nice touch. There was a part in the Doom film that did the same thing. I personally find it a&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869218'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sun, 29 May 2016 21:23:43 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869218 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11869218 johanlefourbe posted a review of Chocolat <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11868180'>A good movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/chocolat'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/9533683/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I have noticed that several Filmclub members turned out to be slightly disappointing by this movie but, to be honest, I didn't have such expectations and I thought it turned out to be a decent watch. Above all, Omar Sy, probably one of the most famous French actors at work nowadays, was just really &#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11868180'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sun, 29 May 2016 17:59:34 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11868180 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11868180 BAMF posted a review of The Do Over <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11864164'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-do-over'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/11212536/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;So I watched the trailer for this and thought it looked decent. I still enjoy Adam Sandler even if some of his recent choices have been kind of poor. I'm sick of Nick Swardson though. He is one of the weird comedian guys I just can't like. Paula Patton is interesting. The weird thing is I think she &#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11864164'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sun, 29 May 2016 02:46:00 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11864164 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11864164 BAMF posted a review of Alice Through the Looking Glass <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11862548'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/alice-in-wonderland-2'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/9503738/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I was really skeptical about watching this. I despised the first one. I usually like Tim Burton films, but whenever he takes on kids stories like Alice in Wonderland or Willy Wonka they tend to be off-putting for me. I had no idea he only produced this one until I was about to watch it. I figured I &#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11862548'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sat, 28 May 2016 21:40:48 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11862548 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11862548 Leo posted a review of Ishtar <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11860831'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/ishtar-1987'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/89916/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I've only heard bad things about this film over the years so I decided to see if it lives up to the low expectations. Needless to say, it is just as worse beyond my wildest dreams. The comedy wasn't funny, the plot is endlessly complicated and the adventure in Morocco is very ropey. This was too bad&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11860831'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Sat, 28 May 2016 17:59:00 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11860831 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11860831 johanlefourbe posted a review of Wadjda <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856403'>A good movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/wadjda'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/8609498/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I had seriously no idea what to expect from this movie and the main reason why I wanted to watch it was because it was included in the '1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die' list. Eventually, it was a really interesting feature. Indeed, it is always pretty neat to discover a new land and a new cu&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856403'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 21:43:21 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856403 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856403 thehollywoodki posted a review of The Fallen Idol <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856126'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-fallen-idol-1948'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/1621139/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;If you have seen Sir Carol Reed's The Third Man, then you know the high standards he applies to his art. He was a brilliant director, who left a legacy that is memorable. A legacy that has survived the test of time. Add to that this film's personification of evil in the character of Mrs. Baines. Son&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856126'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 20:41:57 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856126 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856126 thehollywoodki posted a review of No Orchids for Miss Blandish <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856050'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/no-orchids-miss-blandish'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/5365907/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;While No Orchids for Miss Blandish has noir elements, it is really far too light weight to qualify as a true film noir. It is too cute. The novel is probably better than the film. Unless you can buy a viewable use DVD, don't waste your time. Buy a classic UK noir like The Fallen Idol, or The Third M&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856050'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 20:27:04 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856050 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11856050 yatteringjack posted a review of The Incredible Hulk <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854518'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-incredible-hulk'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/544373/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I'm probably the only person in existence who actually preferred Ang Lee's 2003 film. No I'm not suggesting that film was great or anything but I did at least think it was interesting. 2008's Incredible Hulk on the other hand I found to be extremely dull, Norton's performance in particular I didn't &#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854518'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 15:32:58 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854518 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854518 yatteringjack posted a review of Tyrannosaur <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854505'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/tyrannosaur'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/2197437/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;British films have the tendency to lean towards the dour and depressing and Tyrannosaur is no different, reflecting working class life as nothing but a miserable grind becomes a little tedious at times (speaking as a British working class person.) However if you get past this you'll find Tyrannosaur&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854505'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 15:29:36 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854505 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11854505 johanlefourbe posted a review of September 11 <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853968'>A good movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/september-11-2002'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/973037/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;In fact, I saw this movie in the movie theater when it was released. To be honest, I wonder how I actually ended up watching the damned thing but I guess it was because there were several directors I admired that were involved (Alejandro G. Iñárritu, Ken Loach, Mira Nair, Sean Penn). On top of tha&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853968'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 13:25:22 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853968 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853968 johanlefourbe posted a review of Spotlight <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853296'>A good movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/spotlight'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/9827053/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;To conclude, this movie was not really on my radar for a long time but since it won the Best Picture Academy Award, I was quite eager to check out the damned thing. Well, eventually, I thought it was a pretty good story, with some solid directing and a very strong cast (Michael Keaton, Mark Ruffalo,&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853296'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 09:42:00 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853296 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853296 johanlefourbe posted a review of A Million Ways to Die in the West <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853088'>An average movie</a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/million-ways-die-west'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/6927505/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Even though this movie was a commercial and critical flop, since I really loved ‘Ted’,  I still wanted to check it out. Unfortunately, I’m afraid the whole thing really deserved its poor reputation as it turned out to be rather underwhelming. On a paper, it did sound promising to have Seth Ma&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853088'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Fri, 27 May 2016 07:54:01 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853088 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11853088 BAMF posted a review of The Brothers Grimsby <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11851144'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/grimsby'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/9645651/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I watched the trailer for this and seeing Sacha Baron Cohen lets you know that this is going to be a rather gross comedy. The guy doesn't seem to have any boundaries. I wonder how he constantly gets such huge stars to make fools of themselves with him. I have greatly enjoyed every film by Louis Lete&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11851144'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 21:17:35 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11851144 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11851144 yatteringjack posted a review of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11849188'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/2818276/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Proof as if any is needed that Star Wars is the most unbelievably overrated film franchise in the history of cinema. Even the fanboys couldn't deny how crappy this one was, and to think I paid six quid to go see this piece of shit at the time only to have to sit through Jar Jar Binks and that brat k&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11849188'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 17:38:53 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11849188 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11849188 yatteringjack posted a review of Inception <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847878'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/inception'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/11376679/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Possibly the most overrated film Iv'e ever seen. It's nice that it captured so many peoples imagination and all but in all honestly I thought it was a hugely disappointing. The concept sounded awesome, so there I was expecting colourful, surrealistic and mind blowing imagery and what I got was a vac&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847878'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 14:31:08 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847878 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847878 yatteringjack posted a review of Finding Nemo <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847472'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/finding-nemo'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/87238/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;I think a person to truly fear and detest would be those who don't apprentice the beauty and wonder of Pixar films, don't you? I mean talk about lacking a heart, if you can't tap into your inner child, then truly you are lost. Finding Nemo is great, beautifully animated, beautifully written, with mo&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847472'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 13:49:56 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847472 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847472 yatteringjack posted a review of The Last Samurai <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847453'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-last-samurai'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/11297410/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Stark raving bonkers Scientologist menopausal housewife's favourite sex dwarf Tom Cruise as a Samurai? Bizarrely not a god awful as it sounds. Entertaining even.&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847453'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 13:43:48 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847453 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847453 yatteringjack posted a review of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847386'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-doom'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/4130327/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Thank goodness they made Crystal Skull! Now that means Temple Of Doom is no longer the whipping boy of the Indiana Jones franchise. I always like Temple Of Doom, it's creepy and kind of camp but I liked at as kid and that's what matters. God damn it I even don't hate Willie Scott!&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847386'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 13:21:44 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847386 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847386 yatteringjack posted a review of Big <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847368'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/big'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/150653/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;How can you not like Big? It's awesome. I think Iv'e probably watched it too many times though, I mean it's one of those movies that's always on the TV, isn't it? Zoltar creeps me out just as much as it did when I was eight years old, I think the same guy who constructed the lament configuration box&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847368'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 13:17:51 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847368 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847368 yatteringjack posted a review of The A-Team <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847349'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/the-ateam-2008'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/6648031/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Is it just nostalgia that makes me remember the original A-Team with fondness? The last time I watched it was in a Amsterdam hotel room over ten years ago, they were dubbed into Dutch and I was stoned. It was still a lot more enjoyable than this mess though.&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847349'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 13:15:48 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847349 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11847349 yatteringjack posted a review of Scary Movie <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846965'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/scary-movie'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/4336/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Or as I like to call it jackhammer trepanning the movie, in which your sense of humour and intelligence is severed from the chords connected to your brain in severe and rigorous fashion. That red head in the second movie is hot though, wait should I be talking about the second movie? me can't rememb&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846965'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 12:14:54 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846965 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846965 yatteringjack posted a review of Patriot Games <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846962'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/patriot-games'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/4868/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Can Channel 4 please stop repeating this movie? Seriously, it's been on about 10,000 times since 1992. Thank you. Patriot Games taps into the Irish troubles and the complexities of pride and war but being overly simplistic and dumb. This was the early 90's however and people still took films with Sc&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846962'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 12:14:18 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846962 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846962 yatteringjack posted a review of Mrs. Doubtfire <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846959'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/mrs-doubtfire'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/2757557/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Dude drags it up to get his wife and kids back. Not Lynch weird, not Cronenberg weird but still pretty weird.&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846959'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 12:13:18 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846959 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846959 yatteringjack posted a review of Ghost World <p><b><a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846956'></a></b></p><p style='color:black;'><a href='http://www.listal.com/movie/ghost-world'><img src='http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/853/50full.jpg' style='float: left;margin-right:6px;' /></a>&#8220;Thank god I stopped being a pretentious working class teenage hipster or I'd be hanging out at a down market cafe, drinking black coffee and talking in those irritating tones so laced with sarcasm and self awareness about how Ghost World just doesn't compare to the original Eightball graphic novel b&#8221; <a href='http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846956'>read more</a><br class='clearboth' /></p> Thu, 26 May 2016 12:12:25 GMT movies http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846956 http://www.listal.com/viewentry/11846956